Google| Subject | Re: Humiliation |
| From | Flame of the West |
| Date | 2002-05-21 06:45 (2002-05-21 00:45) |
| Message-ID | <3CE9D0E5.5937CEE5@erols.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.fan.tolkien |
| Follows | Troels Forchhammer |
| Followups | Mike Scott Rohan (9h & 17m) > Flame of the West Paris (13h & 57m) > Flame of the West |
Troels Forchhammer wrote:
Troels ForchhammerIt seems that the preponderance of evidence, both from dictionaries and English-speaking carbon-based units, is that the normal definition is the one referring to one's internal feelings.
English is not my native language, and I must therefore rely on dictionary definitions - especially regarding some of the finer nuances to the words. The discussion we've seen here seems to me to imply that the above definition is indeed correct, though the "or in the eyes of others" part may not be the normal understanding.
That said, it's interesting that the use of the word to describe Sept. 11 comes mostly from America's enemies. It sounds like wish-fulfilment - they *want* America to have been humiliated. Unfortunately for them, we didn't play along. I'm sure this just made them angrier. So be it.
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-- FotW
Reality is for those who cannot cope with Middle-earth.
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