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SubjectRe: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen mother (of
FromTradeSurplus
Date2002-04-18 21:10 (2002-04-18 21:10)
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Russ wrote ...

Russ
paulh <paulh@fahncahn.com>writes:

OK, so if an IRA unit ambushes a British Army patrol, they are

terrorists.

Yes

OK. Why?

paulh
a/not a legal organisation b/dont represent a government c/not in uniform d/not opposing foreign invaders. e/not representing a majority of citizens f/not opposing a repressive/tyranical regime

Russ
<snip analysis>

How about this as a definition of terrorist group for you: An violent irregular or guerrilla group that does not have a reasonable level of

popular

support and is not opposing a repressive or tyrannical regime.

To include your last point into this definition and also a mention elsewhere by Paul that he wants to separate purely criminal groups from terrorists, I'll expand it slightly to:

A violent irregular or guerrilla group with political aims that does not have a reasonable level of popular support and is not opposing a repressive or tyrannical regime OR a violent irregular or guerrilla group with political aims that uses certain (defined elsewhere) illegitimate means.

If we could get agreement from Paul that this is how he defines terrorism I think we might be able to put an end to this "definition" subthread.

Now, what were we talking about before definitions took over?

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