Google| Subject | Re: Israel and Palestine; was: Republicanism still an offence in England? |
| From | Raven |
| Date | 2002-04-14 15:10 (2002-04-14 15:10) |
| Message-ID | <Defu8.70$Bc.4954@news.get2net.dk> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.fan.tolkien |
| Follows | Jay Random |
| Followups | Jay Random (1h & 42m) |
"Jay Random" <jrandom@bondwine.ca>skrev i en meddelelse news:3CB9153E.5030104@bondwine.ca...
Jay RandomWe are not particularly pro-Arab. The paper I got in today cites a Danish survey that indicates that while popular support for Israel has declined recently, popular support for the Palestinians has not increased. It is my opinion that if the Israelis cede those territories, with, as has been mentioned, a right of return for Palestinians into them, Israel should be invited to join NATO. If the Palestinians don't want *that*, *then* fuck'em. They might be given those territories even if they don't want a peace treaty. "Here you go, do with this land what you will, it's all yours." They would be less potent to strike at Israel than they are now, if the border between Palestinian and Israeli territory became straighter, shorter and more defensible. I heard that the suicide bombers generally come from the West Bank, not from the Gaza strip, even though the Palestinians are not happier in the Gaza strip, nor significantly less numerous. But the border is straighter and shorter. If Israel is a NATO member, they don't *need* Golan, Gaza and the West Bank to defend themselves against another Yom Kippur attack.
However, no one is offering the Israelis membership in NATO. The governments of Western Europe, with the solitary & partial exception of the UK, are solidly pro-Arab. The US & UK alone do not have the power to admit countries to NATO against the will of the other members.
Before you go on about how much we Urpeans hate the Israelis, I may mention that there is a football match in Denmark today between the Israeli and the Danish national teams. This football match seems to be quite important to the Israelis, because it is a token of normalcy in a generally chaotic and awful time. Even though Israel is, geographically, part of Asia, they have long participated in the annual Eurovision song contest. Europe is the largest trading partner to Israel. Only a few fools and Nazi holdovers among Europeans hate Jews and hate Israel. Hating what the Israelis are currently doing is another matter altogether.
Jon L. Beck.
2002-03-30-
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