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Re: Queen mother (of Britai...

TradeSurplus
SubjectRe: Queen mother (of Britain) has died
FromTradeSurplus
Date2002-04-15 14:33 (2002-04-15 14:33)
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FollowsJette Goldie
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Jette Goldie wrote ...

Jette Goldie
"TradeSurplus" wrote

TradeSurplus
Jay Random wrote ...

Jay Random
TradeSurplus wrote:

TradeSurplus
Do you want to try another guess at naming the country of which England and Scotland are parts? 10 obscuro points to a non-Briton who can do so.

Jay Random
I take it it isn't the United Kingdom of Great Britain & Northern Ireland, then?

TradeSurplus
We have a winner! Seems many scots insist on including the whole of Britain (not just

Jette Goldie
England)

TradeSurplus
in the UK but forget that NI is also a part.

Jette Goldie
No, we don't *forget* - we know that *some* N Irish don't want to be British, and some do - so until we know which way the Irish person in question feels about the question, we leave it up to them to claim or not claim their "Britishness".

But that's the whole point innit? Many people in NI do not want to be British therefore by calling the UK the United Kingdom of Britain you are insulting them by saying that only British people are in the UK, thus the inhabitants of NI must be British, whether they want to be or not.

By the same logic, not all Scottish people want to be called English, so the OP who said that the recently deceased queen mother was queen mother of England was insulting Scottish people by implying that all inhabitants of the UK were English.

Not all UKish people are English, neither are all UKish people British. Implying either of these by limiting the name of the UK to either England or Britain is either deliberately excluding non-English or non-British people or unintentionally doing it, which is sometimes worse.

*I* am Scottish and British - I leave it to the various Northern Irish to speak for themselves.

I confess that I was being unwarrantedly nitpickish. I just thought it funny that you would "correct" one person's error with another piece or erroneous info.

Trade.

Jette Goldie (8h & 31m)