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Michael O'Neill
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SubjectMSR and Ojay, you're on notice...[was Re: The British Secret Service...[was Re: Republicanism still
FromMichael O'Neill
Date2002-04-27 02:44 (2002-04-27 01:44)
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Mike Scott Rohan wrote:

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Mike Scott Rohan
I don't recall using all the above terms of you, and probably some stem from other people; but I wouldn't call them unfair. You have agreed with and defended the actions of IRA terrorists and the deliberate and calculated murder of innocent civilians, while claiming a Christian identity. That's contemptible, and you have earned worse names than those. I don't hear any chorus of ridicule, as it happens; but if it came from your kind it would hardly worry me.

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So you think violence and Christianity are incompatible, do you?

How Christian do you want to get Mike?

Luke 19:27

http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B42C019.htm

"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me."

<Thought to have started the whole anti-Semitic movement in Christian times>

John 15:6

http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B43C015.htm

"If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned."

<Thought to have inspired the burning of heretics at the stake and Savonarola's auto da f?>

Finally we have...

Matthew 10:34

http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B40C010.htm

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword."

And then there's the whole section on Luke 12:49 - 12:53

49 "I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?"

50 "But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!"

51 "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:"

52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

53 "The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law."

So you see, *real* Christians know all about the propensity for violence in mankind and the consequences Christ's role in the world. And what divides Northern Ireland. Sectarian divisions.

Which is why of course there's a peace process. And of course, every right thinking Irishman or Briton of whatever persuasion should give credit to the main architects of that peace and support them.

The politicians, in no particular order.

David Trimble John Hume Gerry Adams John Major Bertie Ahern Albert Reynolds Tony Blair John Reid

et al.

And not forgetting the one paramilitary group who have declared a formal ceasefire.

The Irish Republican Army.

Despite provocation from Trimble's party, with their challenges to Reid's judgement calls being thrown out of the Courts.

Despite the antics of the Red Hand Commandos and their ilk - the ones who place children's lives at risk or kill them [remember the three Quinn boys?].

Despite the undermining of their stance by dissident Republicans who cannot live and let live [remember the Omagh atrocity?].

Despite the Patton Report [itself a relatively mild document] not being fully implemented by the British Government.

Despite ongoing subterfuge and bad faith in those running the Police Service of Northern Ireland and the British Secret Service [Remember the Castlereagh break-in?]

So to go on the record and put you and Ojay in your respective boxes once and for all,

I *do* support the IRA ceasefire and the actions of politicians worldwide who support their position.

I *don't* support the killing of civilians, whatever the justification, whoever does it.

I *don't* support the public abuse and villifcation of children, of whatever persuasion, by whoever does it, for whatever reason.

I trust that makes my position clear.

Now you post any libellous allegations against *me* without proof Mike and I'll see you in Court. And that goes for the Scandinavian with the killfile as well.

M.

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