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SubjectRe: Jewish settlements
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Date2002-04-15 04:14 (2002-04-15 04:14)
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On Mon, 15 Apr 2002 04:49:38 +0300, "Morgil Blackhope" <morestelx@hotmail.com>wrote:

Morgil Blackhope
Flame of the West kirjoitti viestiss? <3CB7D1D9.A4CBCDC2@erols.com>...

Flame of the West
Morgil Blackhope wrote:

Morgil Blackhope
Undoubtedly. However, right *now* its Israel who is preventing the peace.

Flame of the West
I'm curious - what specifically would you have them do? Part of their problem is that they can't think of a way to get the Palestinians to deal. Negotiations don't work, force doesn't work. National suicide is not an option, and the Palestinians won't settle for less. If you were PM of Israel, what would *you* do?

Morgil Blackhope
Good question. :-)

Well, I guess I would do two things for starters. I would stop building new colonies on West Bank and Gaza, and I would start removing the old ones. Even if that wouldn't bring immediate peace, it would remove the prime reason for Palestineans to hate Israel, and thereby make it easier for moderate Palestineas to take over the extremeists.

Those settlements are the reason why I cannot feel much sympathy for Israel in the current crisis. I agree that there are reasons for Israel to show mistrust for Arabs, and to that it is understandable for them to be concerned for the security of their country. But the settlements do not serve any other purpose then cause bitterness among Palestineans. As long as they exist, Israel *will* remain as the 'bad guy' in the eyes of international community, and deservingly.

If Israel is serious about making the peace with Arabs, it should immediately start clearing out the settlements. There is no need to have a peace treaty first. Occupying foreign territory to protect yourself can be acceptable under certain circumstances. Colonialisation of that area can never be that.

Yes, I agree that the settlements should be dismantled. They are indeed an obstacle to peace. However, it is pretty dishonest to sum up Israeli fears as "I agree that thereare reasons for Israel to show mistrust for Arabs, and tothat it is understandable for them to be concerned for he security of their country". If the Palestinians and their Arab allies hadn't thought they could do Israel in, many of these problems wouldn't exist. I know you don't particurarly like inconvenient history, but it was the pure stupidity and extraordinary arrogance of Arab leaders that lead to the situation at hand, and I think that some recognition of that, especially from the Palestinian people, would also go a long ways. Blaming Israel entire and glossing over the acts of their neighbors is just simply dishonest.

--- AaronC