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SubjectRe: Evolution
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Date2002-04-17 23:09 (2002-04-17 23:09)
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On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 10:43:14 -0400, Ermanna <Ermanna@erols.com>wrote:

Ermanna
Thomas Brenndorfer made dwagin-sized wripples in the Force: <shnip>

Thomas Brenndorfer
Every day more and more evidence is being accumulated about the facts of evolution and its basis in genetics. Evolution is simply a numerical rate-- the change in the frequency of alleles (i.e., genes) in a population.

Ermanna
<shnip> No one is debating microevolution.

Ahhh yes, the famous shell game trick. We believe that fur can change color, but populations cannot be reproductively isolated.

Thomas Brenndorfer
The numerical proof of genetics and allele frequency for macroevolution came later.

The logical conclusion from all this is that all life shares a common history-- a descent from a common ancestor.

Ermanna
<shnip> You haven't given an example for macroevolution, only microevolution. <shnip>

Thomas Brenndorfer
They continued to make the same claim (microevolution yes; macroevolution no) even when it could be clearly demonstrated what scientists studying evolution are really dealing with.

Ermanna
Demostrate then, and with something other than microevolution.

First of all, read this to understand what micro and macro-evolution actually mean.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/macroevolution.html

Then read this for some examples of speciation, which is what I think you're saying doesn't happen (but please correct me if I'm wrong)

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

<shnip>

Thomas Brenndorfer
And of course these are the same people fighting to bring creationism into the science classroom,

Ermanna
Of course, evolutionist are also terrified of letting creationism _into_ the classroom. I wonder why?

Because Creationism isn't science. It it isn't falsifiable.

Thomas Brenndorfer
often using stealth tactics such as stacking school boards, instead of demonstrating any scientific basis for their beliefs,

Ermanna
We have more science on our side than you do.

Really? Which science is that?

<shnip>

Thomas Brenndorfer
As the Pope said: "Evolution is more than a hypothesis".

Ermanna
Microevolution is. Macroevolution isn't.

See above.

--- AaronC