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SubjectRe: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen mother (of
FromTradeSurplus
Date2002-04-18 20:35 (2002-04-18 20:35)
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?jevind L?ng wrote in message ...

?jevind L?ng
TradeSurplus wrote:

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?jevind L?ng wrote in message ...

?jevind L?ng
TradeSurplus wrote: [snip]

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The IRA has also committed both terrorist acts (pub bombings) and non-terrorist acts (shooting paratroopers that attacked nationalist

areas

while wearing their combat fatigues).

?jevind L?ng
"Attacked nationalist areas"? They shot everyone they saw? In that case

you

should report them to the British authorities;

TradeSurplus
Reporting them to the authorities is what the Bloody Sunday inquiry is all about, if I'm not mistaken.

?jevind L?ng
If I remember correctly, the Bloody Sunday was the shooting of demonstrators, not an attack on a residential area. Of course, I may misremember. And of course the security forces were wrong when they shot at the demonstrators.

You don't remember correctly. Also Bloody Sunday was only one incident. The British Army did not, of course, kill everyone they saw. There are many, many examples of historical invasions where the invading army did not "kill everyone they saw". They are still classified as invasions. Persian invasion of Greece Roman invasion of Gaul Norman invasion of Britain Swedish invasion of Germany Do I really have to go on?

The British Army invaded nationalist areas, against the will of the populace, and killed some people (Not all. Some). This counts as an attack. Responding to an attack by shooting at the attacking soldiers does not, in my definition, count as terrorism. It may count as unjust and/or evil but, as we agree, that is a separate question. And of course the IRA did undoubtedly do other things which _are_ terrorist acts.

TradeSurplus
You say international law does not agree with me. Is there a definition of terrorism in international law? Would you like to quote it here?

?jevind L?ng
Apparently, the UN and the US believe there is something called terrorism that one is justified in fighting - hence the invasion of Afghanistan.

So you don't know what the international law is but you think that it says that all IRA actions were terrorist actions? Why do you think that if you don't know what the law is?

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