Google| Subject | Re: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen mother (of |
| From | paulh |
| Date | 2002-04-14 07:29 (2002-04-14 07:29) |
| Message-ID | <2e4ibu412v1n1bqpmqrjm7dvm7ktvqlg9k@4ax.com> |
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| Newsgroups | alt.fan.tolkien |
| Follows | Russ |
| Followups | Russ (8h & 50m) > paulh Flame of the West (13h & 13m) |
On 12 Apr 2002 16:59:48 GMT, mcresq@aol.com (Russ) wrote:
How do you know how many support it? You're just making that up. And are you saying it's ok to brutalise an entire population as long as 51% support the terrorist activities of a portion of that population? Or do you need 66%? I need to know what percentage is required before one can brutalise an opposing community.. And what you don't seem to see is that this is cyclical violence. Why should the Israelis give up first? Why should the Palestinians give up first? Neither side has the reason or willpower to do so.paulhRuss
So true... Israel was being attacked from there in 1967 so its only right that they can brutalise civilians in that area 35 years later. Might is Right and all..
Might does not make right. But, of course, sometimes might is right.
Anyway...what civilians are being brutalized? The same civilians, a vast majority of which, support and condone suicide bombers?
The Palestinians could have had a state 54 years ago. But no they attacked. They could have had a state anytime between 1948 and 1967 had Egypt and Jordan seen fit to give them the Gaza Strip and the West Bank. Not only didn't they do so, they attacked ISrael instead. They could have had a state when Prime Minister Barak offered one to them a few years ago. But no, they would rather kill Israeli civilians. The Palestinians have yet to show they have joined the civilized world. What could have been a Palestinian state is now a smouldering ruin because Arafat refused to make peace with Barak and the Palestinain people agreed with Arafat. Plain and simple.Thats because the peace Barak insists on is untenable for the Palestinians. Just being offered something doesn't mean you must accept it.
How many times was Israel supposed to be attacked? 5? 10? 20? At what point does Israel have a right to say, 'Enough'. At what point are the justified in looking out for their own security first? According to those who think like you, apparently the answer is never.Actually I believe they either need to eliminate or expel ALL palestinians or give up their settlements entirely in the West Bank/Gaza strip for real peace.. otherwise this will just all continue. The Israelis are going more down the first road, eliminating all the people they feel are threatening them, guilty or not. But unless they get rid of the lot they will be replaced in time.
paulh
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