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?jevind L?ng
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SubjectRe: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen mother (of
From?jevind L?ng
Date2002-04-19 16:25 (2002-04-19 16:25)
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?jevind L?ng wrote in message ...

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?jevind L?ng
Bloody Sunday was not British troops firing at demonstrators?

TradeSurplus
It was also an attack on residential areas. You said it was not. It was. Therefore you were incorrect.

When people talk about Bloody Sunday, they generally refer to the massacre on unarmed demonstrators. If you say it also includes a following search of Catholic nationalist homes I believe you, of course.

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still classified as invasions. Persian invasion of Greece Roman invasion of Gaul Norman invasion of Britain Swedish invasion of Germany Do I really have to go on?

I notice that you did not respond to my comment that Sweden coming to the aid of the Protestant German principalities in Germany during the Thirty Years' War does not constitute a "Swedish invasion of Germany". Instead, you just snipped it, obviously in the hope that people would not notice your appalling ignorance.

?jevind L?ng
And why do Irish nationalists always go back to ancient history for arguments?

TradeSurplus
You'd have to ask an Irish nationalist.

OK - you are not an Irish nationalist. You just sound like one.

More modern examples of invasions are German invasion of France Soviet invasion of Afghanistan Iraqi invasion of Kuwait US Invasion of Kuwait and Iraq

The US did not invade Kuwait - it liberated Kuwait. And they never invaded Iraq because they had no mandate from the UN to do so; they only bombed it.

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?jevind L?ng
You have your own way of interpreting this, I see. Like it or not, the nationalist areas currently belong to the UK. Hence, the British army

can't

"invade" them.

TradeSurplus
OED Invade: enter under arms to control or subdue.

In that case, the cops "invade" the homes of gangsters. You are squeezing the definition through a hole to fit your purposes.

The police can invade a rioting suburb of London. The army can invade a nationalist area of NI.

This is NOT the standard use of the word. "The police invaded Brixton"? Come off it.

If you don't like the English language feel free to not use it.

I will feel free never to engage in "discussions" with you again.

?jevind

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