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SubjectRe: OT:Christianity
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Date2002-05-02 04:45 (2002-05-02 04:45)
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Newsgroupsalt.fan.tolkien,rec.arts.books.tolkien
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James Bell wrote:

James Bell
Sylver wrote:

David Sulger
And every JW probably believes that he or she is toeing the line so well that they'll be part of the 144,000.

Sylver
Let me ammend that comment about 1945. It was the beginning of WWI. 1914. They think that when everyone who is chosen (having been born 1914 or before) has died, then the end will come.

James Bell
According to JWs, the coming of the end has nothing to do with how many of the chosen ones are alive or dead. It is an unrelated issue.

Sorry if I seem picky on specific doctrine but if people are going to be critical, they should have their facts straight. I've seen more myth on this thread than fact. Probably because so many people just tune out the incessantly droning sermons and then later feel they can speak with authority on the sermon's subject.

Jim

I've studied it, was raised with it, went to many Kingdom Hall meetings, Book Studys, Personal Bible Studies, etcetera. When I was studying this stuff, the coming of the end most certainly DID have to do with how many of the 144,000 were left alive, according to what I was being taught. I was told that when the 144,000 die, the end times will begin, and there were scriptures that went along with the idea. Like I said in another post, things may have changed now. And as for me tuning out the incessantly droning sermons, that's what I do NOW, because I don't want to listen to it anymore. When I was much younger and didn't have much choice in the matter, I listened. Then I got a bit older (teens), and decided that I didn't want to go that path, and from that day forth, I still get a lecture or two/year designed to get me to go back.

Anyway, as it stands now, they could have changed the idea of the coming of the end being tied to the deaths of the 144,000.

BTW, I don't mind you being picky. I understand. A lot of times, I end up correcting people when they start in about the JW's, especially with some of the really wierd things people believe about them. (My favourite being "The reason they don't accept blood transfusions is because they don't believe in saving lives", which is a silly notion. What I was told was because the blood belongs to God, and it's not up to us to give it away, or take it from someone else. There was a scripture or two to go along with that.) All I'm stating is the stuff that I was taught once upon a time. If I'm wrong now, just state what I'm wrong about, I'd appreciate it. I remember asking a question once about something, and the lady I was having my bible study said, "Well, the new understanding according to the Watchtower Society...."