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?jevind L?ng
SubjectRe: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen mother (of england) has died)
From?jevind L?ng
Date2002-04-04 16:41 (2002-04-04 16:41)
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FollowupsDonald Shepherd (11h & 32m) > ?jevind L?ng

Fergus O'Rourke wrote:

Fergus O'Rourke
"F?achad?ir" <F?ach@d.?ir>wrote in message news:g5vmau096lbqn4s7uub725qboce7fi9kja@4ax.com...

Scr?obh David Flood :

[Treason]

But was it ever so used in the 1800s ?

David Flood
As far as I can recall offhand, there were a number of executions of

Fergus O'Rourke
Irish

David Flood
revolutionaries during the rebellions in the mid-1800's, and then of

Fergus O'Rourke
course

David Flood
there was the aftermath of the 1916 Rising, where the senior Irish

Fergus O'Rourke
officers

David Flood
were swiftly executed (before English Liberal and international outrage

Fergus O'Rourke
put

David Flood
an end to further progression through the rebel ranks - too late,

Fergus O'Rourke
though).

Not all rebels were executed for treason. Sometimes, the charge was simple murder.

And then again, the outrage didn't extend to Roger Casement, executed well after the initial fevered kneejerk executions.

David Flood
I think Parnell and the other Irish Parliamentary Party leaders were imprisoned under something like it (in efforts to destroy constitutional Irish Nationalism) in the latter half of the nineteenth century.

I doubt the charges against Parnell were that serious. There's quite a bit of ground between treason or sedition and "something like it".

FWIW, the last person executed for treason by the British was an Irishman, William Joyce, aka Lord Haw Haw.

Fergus O'Rourke
You are both missing (evading ?) the point.

David Flood suggested that insulting the British monarch was a dangerous thing in 19th century Ireland.

But *was* it ?

Why on EARTH do all discussions on this newsgroup end up being about either the Catholic Church or about Irish history? In this case, could it be because some idiot crossposted it to other groups? (I struck them out, by the way.)

?jevind