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SubjectRe: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen mother (of
FromTamim
Date2002-04-13 22:17 (2002-04-13 22:17)
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AC <spam@nospam.com>wrote:

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On 13 Apr 2002 18:44:31 GMT, mcresq@aol.com (Russ) wrote:

Russ
According to press reports yesterday, Israel provided some fairly substantial proof (obtained during the recent fighting) to Powell and the Bush administration that Arafat is up to his armpits in terrorism. I'd be curious to see where that goes.

AC
Well, if an intercepted arms shipment out of Iran won't convince the skeptics, then nothing will.

How about all the arms shipments to the Israeli?. Paradox is that if they (the Palestinians) try to get small arms it's wrong. And when they blow themselves and a bunch of civilans to pieces when they have no other way of fighting back, it's even worse. The Israeli on the other hand can buy openly apaches and other high tech weapons whith which to blow the palestinians to pieces and destroy their homes (not the real homes, they were driven out of those, but the slums or refugee camps).

What I'm trying to say is that both parties are killing civilians and doing wrong. The difference is that

1) Israelis can buy the weapons openly.

2) Palestinians don't stand a chance in open war

3) Palestinian cause for fighting is understandable: They are trying to put an end to the situation in which they wre driven out of their homes and are now living in small patches of land, which is itself now occupied and from which they are apparently trying to again be driven out.

Now you are going to ask whether the Israelis have also the right to defend their homes. And if I am for driving them totally away from the land thir homes which they have taken since the first world war from the palestinians.

No. It would be unfair to drive a family out of Jerusalem because their ancestors had captured that home from the palestinians more than half a century ago. It wouldnt be as unfair as to claim that this is our land because we were driven out a couple of thousand years ago.

But keeping people under your rule by force and not giving them full citizenship rights is wrong.

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