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Graeme
SubjectRe: Queen mother (of Britain) has died
FromGraeme
Date2002-04-10 17:40 (2002-04-10 17:40)
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Thomas Brenndorfer (10h & 6m) > Graeme

But you're assumption is always based on either a/ you feel it seems unlikely

b/ it happend by chance. One.. a billion years is a long time...very long. I don't know people can calculate (mentally) the odds ofthings happening over this sort of time frame.

Exactly. It's a faith based position. Life from non-life doesn't operate by any scientifically discovered process. You either believe it or you don't. You apparently do. Fair enough. You won't disbelieve this unless it's positively disproved.

Other people won't disbelieve in other things until they're positively disproved. Most people have biases like that.

Two.. being complex is not proof its impossible. Its evidence it may have taken a long long time.

Yeah, maybe. It seems a bit unlikely because we don't see nature creating vastly simply items like screwdrivers and microwaves. But that's not a proof, as you say, just a strong indicator.

Also DNA is not random, its a mechanism that life strove for (in that it needed something to work the way DNA works to improve its efficieny). And as such ANY mechanism would have done and DNA was the first workable one to come along. If life were to restart then its almost definite that Life maybe Amino Acid based but it would be different Amino Acids (prob) and there wouldnt be DNA.. it would be something else.

paulh

Once you've got a mechanism capable of self-improvement you're in the clear. It's getting that far that's the problem.

paulh (26m)
Thomas Brenndorfer (10h & 6m) > Graeme