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FromDavid Flood
Date2002-04-14 22:59 (2002-04-14 21:59)
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"Russ" <mcresq@aol.com>wrote in message news:20020414151632.10628.00001652@mb-fo.aol.com...

Russ
In article <a9cg1u$c2f$1@oravannahka.helsinki.fi>, Tamim

<hallaril@hotmail.com>

writes:

Tamim
Russ <mcresq@aol.com>wrote:

In article <a9bc5f$1ovcq$1@ID-39038.news.dfncis.de>, "Annatar" <annatar@terra.es>writes:

1) Israelis can buy the weapons openly.

Israel is a sovereign state. Last time I checked sovereign states buying arms is not illegal.

But for the Palestinian is, isn't it? Are you declaring that there are three millions people that don't belong to any state and then have no rights, including the right to self- defense?

Palestinians, like post-War Germans have to earn those rights back.

Post-war Germans still retained their basic human rights.

Russ
And so do Palestinians, however, they are still combatants.

That's actually a crucial difference in the Germans favor: they were

defeated

and surrendered. The Palestinians were defeated and continued to fight.

So my

analogy was incorrect: Palestians are like Germans during the war.

(We've discussed this very point before, with regards to Irish resistance ;)

Are you referring to one of the conditions the RC Church has for a "just war", that there must be a realistic likelihood of victory? (though cynics might say this merely excuses the Church from having to support the underdog - and likely loser - no matter how morally superior their cause may be).

D.

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