Google| Subject | Re: The British Secret Service...[was Re: Republicanism still an offence in Eng |
| From | ?jevind L?ng |
| Date | 2002-04-24 21:58 (2002-04-24 21:58) |
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Michael O'Neill wrote:
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Michael O'NeillMichael, as you presumably know, heredity is not carried through the blood - it is carried by the genes. Neither is there some kind of "blood" that can with a certainty be said to have been the only type among people belonging to a certain linguistic group at any point in history. There are no "Celtic blood types". True, certain bloodgroups and other genetic traits tend to be more common in certain human groups than in others. For example, whereas AB- blood (my blood type) is common in Africa and Asia but very uncommon among people of European descent, it is fairly common in Finland (my mother's country of birth). But that does not mean that I have "Finnish blood" except in a loose, shorthand way of saying that half of my genes come from a mother who was from Finland but who certainly did not have a special "Finnish blood type". Neither does it mean I have "Asian blood", though it definitely increases the probability that some of my ancestors were Asians who "mixed blood" - that is to say, mixed genes - with the aboriginal Finno-Ugrian tribesmen during the Finno-Ugrians' long trek before they finally settled in Europe. (They seem to have originated west of the Ural Mountains, that is to say on marginal European soil.) The fact that people (such as many all over the British Isles) with some kind of descent from persons who speak or once spoke a Celtic language are more likely than others to be bearers of "the Celtic Curse" (hereditary hemochromatosis) does not mean that they have "Celtic blood". There ain't no such thing, any more than there is Finnish blood., Nordic blood, Zulu blood or Esperanto blood. Otherwise, since many people with ancestors speaking a Celtic languge seem to be in particular peril of suffering from hereditary hemochromatosis (alias "the Celtic Curse", alias "the Irish Illness", alias "the Scottish Sickness"), the desire not to have "Celtic blood" imputed to Mike Scott Rohan in David Flood's amazingly insolent and abusive post would be easy to understand. The Celtic Curse includes the following symptoms:
Now you either know about the various cetic blood types or you don't Ojay. A recent genetype research program [on the telly shortly after Christmas IIRC] found the old blood still lurks in the coastal regions of Britain and all over Ireland. Very little Norman penetration so to speak. Lots of Celtic blood around here.
Jaundice (yellowing of eyes and skin) Chronic fatigue or depression Abdominal pains Discoloration of the flesh under the nails Depression or lack of energy Loss of sex drive Irregular heartbeat or heart disease Early menopause or impotence
It affects:
The liver in 100% of cases 65% of cases develop diabetes or acute hypoglycemia 75% result in chondrocalcinosis, affecting the joints 50% result in hypogonadism (gonads) before cirrhosis develops Pancreas in many cases. Skin, thyroid, adrenals, pituitary, lymph nodes, stomach, kidneys, etc. (without significant functional consequences).
I did a search on the Celtic Curse to be able to give a thorough reply. One of the websites I found included the following advice:
"Seek treatment
OR
Die early."
I am not glad that I don't have any Celtic blood, since happiness at not having something nonexistent is silly, but I definitely feel rather good about not having (as far as I know) any Irish or Scottish British ancestors, since that might have given me such crappy genes.
?jevind
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