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SubjectRe: The British Secret Service...[was Re: Republicanism still an offence in Eng
FromRuss
Date2002-04-23 16:27 (2002-04-23 16:27)
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In article <2002042311522471187@asgard.zetnet.co.uk>, Mike Scott Rohan <mike.scott.rohan@asgard.zetnet.co.uk>writes:

Mike Scott Rohan
To judge by previous exchanges here, you needn't apologise too profusely. The current line for extremist republicans is "Of course I don't approve of the IRA's methods, *but*..." That routine denial made, they're free to parrot the IRA version of history, invented to greenwash those methods. All carefully obscuring one awkward little truth -- the IRA's means and the IRA's ends are one and the same.

If you want to take the position that means=ends, that is fine as long as you apply it equally to the British and Northern Irish states. I suspect you don't do that however, making you a hypocrite.

Using the 'means' employed by the British security services, over half of those killed by them were completely innocent people. Does your means=ends analysis apply to that stark fact or *are* you a hypocrite?

Terrorist weapons kill completely innocent people, because they're meant to; they don't work otherwise.

Don't be absurd. All weapons kill completely innocent people.

But speaking that magic line transforms these people from blinkered racist fanatics to saddened observers. In their mirrors, anyhow; and they're not given to looking anywhere else.

Another conclusion markedly lacking in facts.

Russ

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