Subject | Re: Queen mother (of Britain) has died |
From | AC |
Date | 2002-04-10 18:00 (2002-04-10 18:00) |
Message-ID | <3cb460bb.420217921@news2.randori.com> |
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Newsgroups | alt.fan.tolkien |
Follows | Joy |
JoyPutting something too simply ultimately means that you build something which does not resemble what you attempted to describe in the first place.
spam@nospam.com (AC) wrote:JoyAnyhow, middle school mathematics teaches that if the probability of one thing occuring is slim, then the probability of it *not* happening is high. And the chance that the functions of the human body just came together and *happened* is, as George Gallup so nicely said, a statistical monstrosity. So probability-wise, a Creator has a fairly good chance of existing.AC
It is a gross distortion of statistical mathematics to use it as an argument against biological evolution. The functions of the human body did not "just come together". That is classic strawman, since it is not actually refuting any rational notion of evolution at all. No biologist believes things just happened. There is always cause and effect.
Okay, I was trying to put things as simply as possible, since I didn't think that anybody would take this creation-evolution discussion in a Queen Mother thread too seriously.
I know evolutionists don't believe it was just "*bang* and look, a human! whoa, what are the odds?"Again, that is not necessarily how abiogenesis occured. But beyond that, evolution does not require abiogenesis.
It has been calculated that the odds of a spontaneous formation of even a small protein, given *100 billion years* (10 to 20 times greater than the approximated age of the earth) is less than 1 to 10 to the 60th.
And where is DNA from? I find the complexity of DNA mind-boggling. (Could, of course, just be my mind.) But we have these incredibly complex polymers, perfectly arranged into strands that are, in humans, over a metre long... the DNA of a bacterium can be made up of easily a few million separate units. DNA is far more complex than a simple protein, and the odds of *that* forming over 100 billion years are already slim... so if the odds of even a protein forming are ridiculous, I would think the odds of DNA strands happily forming into pretty spirals that *also* contain meaningful code, even over several billion years, are even tinier.Why not? One step at a time, you would be surprised how complex systems can evolve from humble beginnings.
That's why I said the probability of evolution was slim.But evolution is occuring right now. Apparently it is far from slim. But I think this is not the appropriate place to discuss it.