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Michael O'Neill
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SubjectRe: The British Secret Service...[was Re: Republicanism still an offence in Eng
FromMichael O'Neill
Date2002-04-23 20:44 (2002-04-23 19:44)
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John Evans wrote: <snip>

John Evans
I'm reluctant to post here - having lurked in the group for a while and having posted once or twice. I sense that getting into an 'Irish' topic can go off in tangents, but here I go.

Well, as far as it goes, welcome. Welcome to any balanced reasoned argument or set of comments.

A quick look in Google indicates that both David an Michael seem be fairly clued in on things Irish, so I'm surprised that both are of the view that there is some conspiracy of sorts at work in the Garda McCabe murder.

I'll put my hand up here and say I have *no* inside information on this. I am an observer oe current events and that whole thing just *smelt*.

Here's a theory - it was murder, plain and simple: No moles in the Gardai, no premeditated political motives. Just a group of very violent people setting out to rob a post office money delivery, seeing two gardai who they probably recognised (I'm sure someone like Pearse McAuley would be well known to the Special Branch and vice versa) and taking the opportunity to kill them because that's what mindless violent people do.

Most IRA operatives in the field were *not* mindlessly violent. Lethal, co-ordinated, professional, yes to all of the above but seldom mindless. If they were *all* mindlessly violent there could have been *no* ceasefire at all. No discipline = no ceasefire. Q.E.D.

Certainly until the peace process shook them out, there *were* a few mindless and violent and unprofessional people among the ranks of the IRA, but the Real and Continuity IRA seem to have adopted those. Omagh speaks for itself, and as for the three who were traced whilst using a mobile phone near the border, well, what can anybody say in their defence?

So if you're saying that the killers were of that ilk [two of the mindlessly violent people that were still *in* the IRA] I concur you may have a point. But it still *smells*.

For me, as an Irish citizen, the Adare murder asks a whole load of questions that the IRA, and Sinn Fein have never answered. Indeed I can't believe that when Gerry Adams starts banging on about these guys being released under the Good Friday agreement that he's not pinned on it by the media.

Absolutely. If you carry on a war abroad to effect political change in Northern Ireland, that's one thing. You cannot go around killing the appointed enforcers of law and order in your own State. To prosecute a political prisoner ethos under the good Friday Agreement, they cannot be seen to be enemies of the Republic. People who kill Garda? are enemies of this State and I personally do not believe they should be released.

FWIW

M.