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?jevind L?ng
SubjectRe: The British Secret Service...[was Re: Republicanism still an offence in England? (wasRe: Queen m
From?jevind L?ng
Date2002-04-18 17:25 (2002-04-18 17:25)
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Michael O'Neill wrote:

Michael O'Neill
?jevind L?ng wrote:

[snip]

I suppose you'll be dressing me up in black armbands again, but I'm not a rabid Republican.

I have never said that you are, Michael.

To understand why your post was so funny to me, you must first realise that there are two "Britains", where the British people themselves are concerned. London/the Home Counties and the Rest of the UK.

Let me get this straight. You are claiming that ALL of the UK outside the Home Counties is occupied territory? That is more extreme than even Flood's statements about "occupied Scotland and Wales".

So, in general, British people that I have met are law-abiding, hard-working, god-fearing, pleasant people, the further north you go, the more so. There is much Irish stock there so no surprises that I've found common ground or whatever, but even english people themselves see the difference between say Tyneside and London.

The Home Counties are evil and the north of England is good? I really have no comment to that. Also, you seem to imply that one is vastly more likely to be "law-abiding, hard-working, god-fearing, pleasant" if one happens to be Irish stock. I really have no comment to that either.

[snip description of various shenanigans by British security people, cops etc.]

I have never claimed that no members of the British secret service and security forces, or the British police, or the NI police, have ever behaved badly. But you seem to claim that Britain is not a democracy at all - outside the Home Counties. Apparently, even Yorkshire and Devon are oppressed. What I say is that Britain is a democracy and that the IRA are just as dismal a collection of goons as the PLO.

?jevind

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