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FromDavid Flood
Date2002-04-19 00:49 (2002-04-18 23:49)
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"paulh" <paulh@fahncahn.com>wrote in message news:o00ubucil8skqar033aj8ck8scqni1d2vs@4ax.com...

paulh
On 18 Apr 2002 17:07:28 GMT, mcresq@aol.com (Russ) wrote:

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Russ
OK, so if a military plane drops a bomb on a target at noon crowded with civilians, it is not terrorism (although it may be something else)

paulh
Not if theres some sort of war going on its not...

Define 'some sort'. And, in an aside, it's what's called a 'war crime' (although not if you're on the winning side).

What about a car bomb of an army barracks? Is that ok?

no

Russ
Why?

paulh
See previous answers/posts and put 2 and 2 together (hint.. keep the

number 4 in

mind)

Keep the questions coming....

Russ
Maybe using the Socratic method we can come up with a workable definition

of

terrorism for you. <g>

paulh
I already have one...

What defines terrorism? The target? The means? Both? Neither?

According to you its mathematics.

Russ
Actually, I've never said that. What I have argued is that military vs. civilians deaths is *evidence* as to whether a group can be termed a

terrorist

group or not.

paulh
And I say its not. It merely a sample of whether they are efficient terrorists or not.

Which brings us neatly back to "they're terrorists because they're terrorists".

Russ
Rather I have defined terrorist (broadly) as targeting civilians. See below.

paulh
thats part of it..luckily the British Army has rarely ever done that. Or

have

you any proof that they've ever been ordered to just go out and shoot any

old

person who wanders by?

Have you, perchance, ever heard of the British Army's "Force Research Unit"? (I believe it's now going under a new name)

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/breaking/2000/0923/breaking40.htm http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/ireland/1998/0330/north8.htm http://www.serve.com/pfc/fru/fruindex.html http://www.sbpost.ie/story.jsp?story=WCContent;id-20328 http://www.sbpost.ie/story.jsp?story=WCContent;id-8209 http://www.sbpost.ie/story.jsp?story=WCContent;id-15730

Or read any account of the BA's other activities in Ireland down through the centuries?

D.

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