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SubjectRe: converting raw images from Canon EOS 600D
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Date12/02/2013 04:23 (12/01/2013 22:23)
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In article <87zjokgdxd.fld@apaflo.com>, Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com>wrote:

Floyd L. Davidson
The problem is that clicking a mouse is a great solution for some things, and a terrible one for others. Restricting oneself to only or to never is equally faulty.

nospam
there is no restriction. both options are available on a mac.

Floyd L. Davidson
Sure.

And in exactly the same way both solutions are available on Linux.

so you finally admit there's a command line on the mac.

that's one revelation, i guess.

do you still think it's hidden or do we need to work on that one?

Except with Linux they both work well.

nonsense. the same script will do the same thing on both.

the difference is there are much more efficient alternatives on a mac that are unavailable to linux users. they have no choice but to jump through hoops.

nospam
it's like saying using a typewriter and a word processing app are both the same because with both, you push the same keys.

one is *far* easier to use and more productive than the other.

Floyd L. Davidson
In different situations it turns out the other is easier and more productive.

nospam
in what situation would a typewriter be more productive?

Floyd L. Davidson
You can't read well? I didn't say that OSX was in effect a typewriter.

nor did i.

nospam
the only one would be wanting to write something during a power outage, and if outages happen more than on rare occasion, you have more serious problems than not being able to write something.

Floyd L. Davidson
So what? We weren't talking about typewriters. Don't you understand what an analogy is? It's not an assignment operation, it's just a rough comparison.

Try reading for content, and try to stay on topic. Try a bit of logic!

after you!

nospam
camera raw is *far* more advanced than anything on linux, plus there are

many more choices too. if you don't like one raw converter, use another.

sid
What has that got to do with it?

nospam
if you want the best results you need to use the best tools, which are not available for linux. that's just how it is.

Floyd L. Davidson
You make this crap up for what purpose?

nospam
it's not made up nor is it crap.

Floyd L. Davidson
It's both.

nospam
photoshop, lightroom, aperture, dxo, pixelmator and dozens and dozens of other apps are *not* available to linux users.

Floyd L. Davidson
I don't really know, but won't most of those run under WINE or other virtual machine packages?

some versions of photoshop will work with wine, but usually with all sorts of issues.

who wants to deal with that shit?

people want to produce results not configure their systems.

Doesn't make much difference, nothing you listed there is of any value to me at all.

how do you know, if you've never used any of them?

you don't even know what they can do!

*that* is the problem.

it would be one thing if you said "i used photoshop for one project and here's what i liked and didn't like..."

but you didn't do that. you immediately dismiss anything other than linux, without even knowing what it is you're dismissing.

nospam
one of the most useful features is non-destructive editing. not only does the gimp not support that, but it doesn't even support adjustment layers! photoshop had that about 20 years ago. it's so behind the times it's laughable.

Floyd L. Davidson
Ah, well, I suppose you need them. Stick with programs that have those features then.

do you even know what they do?? i suspect not.

non-destructive editing and adjustment layers are *very* useful and a huge, huge time saver.

How many of those are restricted to using only a single window on the screen, or perhaps two at most. That's an abomination!

none.

where do you get these fucked up ideas??

How many of those can be executed remotely over a network, which is another abomination.

all.

are there any other ignorant comments? or is that it?