Google| Subject | Re: converting raw images from Canon EOS 600D |
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| Date | 12/01/2013 01:09 (11/30/2013 19:09) |
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In article <8761r9mpsb.fld@apaflo.com>, Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com>wrote:
nonsense.SavageduckFloyd L. Davidson
Tell me that isn't arcane.
Detail and precision might well be arcane. It's also productive and efficient.
a couple of mouse clicks is very productive an efficient.
plus photoshop and lightroom work a lot faster than gimp/dcraw/ufraw, so that't two ways it's more productive and efficient.
Keep in mind that the degree of arcane is proportion to the level of ignorance.nope.
Do you really think that using your favorite RAW converter and editor effectively is any less arcane?what you described is a lot more than just using a raw converter.
you described a script that schedules processes among multiple cores, something which should be done in an app, not a script.
Do you really think a beginner can sit down and in an hour be producing the same quality product that they'll be making two months or even two years later *after* they have acquired all of the arcane knowledge it takes to be even partially efficient with it?what arcane knowledge? adjusting white balance and whatever else is not particularly arcane.
writing shell scripts is.
Just because *you* don't know how to use a tool effectively doesn't mean the tool is not efficient, it doesn't mean the arcane craft of using the tool is without value.just because *you* don't know anything other than your arcane ways doesn't mean it's efficient.
the only lack of logic is choosing a workflow without having evaluated other options. in fact, that's stupid.Floyd L. DavidsonsidSavageduck
Clicking an icon is way easier with osx I take it?
Is that supposed to be some sort of OSX put down?
Probably not, but it does seem to be a put down of your absurd assertions that lack logic.
you have never used photoshop or lightroom so you have no idea what they can and can't do. so far, much of what you said about them and mac/win is completely wrong.
straw man.SavageduckFloyd L. Davidson
You aren't familiar with OSX, Lightroom, or Photoshop are you? I sure as Hell don't have to jump through the hoops Floyd has set out above.
Oh, you just picked up on effective use of those tools in the first hour you used them eh?
what you described with your script can be done with a few clicks in lightroom and is probably one of the first things someone learns to do (rating photos, copy/pasting adjustments, etc.).
so yes, an hour is probably more than enough.
I would suggest that any of them is vastly more arcane, with more hoops in order to get a specific result than the tools that I described. The primary reason for that are the layers of abstraction which have to learned (in depth despite the obfuscation) in order to *really* get results from products designed to make a typical consumer feel less intimidated.how could you possibly suggest that when you've never used it?
and most people *are* typical consumers and completely uninterested in writing and maintaining scripts. they want results.
Of course for those who never get to that level of skill, and are indeed satisfied with clicking on icons to see what happens, the effect is less arcane. And lower quality work too.more bullshit.
they are harder to use than photoshop and lightroom and by quite a bit, as well as significantly slower and less capable.SavageduckFloyd L. Davidson
I have a workflow in Lightroom & Photoshop which might come as a surprise to you, is smooth and efficient, without a thought as to the under pinnings of the OS, I am sure the same is true for those using LR & PS in the Windows environment.
So what. Do you really think using UFRAW and GIMP are any different in that way?
Your logic is absurd in the assumptions you make about what you are ignorant of. What you know is { great | easy | necessary } and what someone else knows or does that you don't is not.you're not one to call someone else ignorant, seeing that you have never used photoshop or lightroom and haven't any clue what they can do and have been incorrect on several points, such as hiding terminal or being restricted to full screen.
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