Subject | Re: converting raw images from Canon EOS 600D |
From | Floyd L. Davidson |
Date | 12/04/2013 12:14 (12/04/2013 02:14) |
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Newsgroups | rec.photo.digital |
Follows | Eric Stevens |
Followups | PeterN (3h & 44m) Eric Stevens (11h & 14m) |
Eric StevensI just checked the BHPhoto.com webpage, where they list "In The Box" specifics (which sometimes aren't very specific). This of course is what ships from Epson, and any given place where a printer can be purchased might add on a full set of regular ink cartridges in addition to what Epson packs in the box.
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:29:18 -0900, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:Floyd L. DavidsonEric Stevens
Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>wrote:Eric StevensFloyd L. Davidson
On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:47:52 -0500, PeterN <peter.newnospam@verizon.net>wrote:Eric StevensSo it seems that the 4900 is the same as the other printers: some ink is used to give the printer it's initial charge.PeterN
Nope. The 4900 comes with more ink than the others. For me this is EOD.
EOD or not, you have missed the point. There is no argument that the 4900 has bigger cartridges. I was trying to say that as in the 2800 and 38xx, some of the initial load of ink goes into filling (also known as priming or charging) the system. You never get a full load of ink out of the initial cartridges.
Peter hasn't missed the point, but he isn't getting it across to you.
Of course there is a significant amount of ink used to simply charge the system when it is new. And of course all printers come with a set of ink cartridges.
The point is that most printers come with a special set of ink carts that have only about twice as much ink as is required to charge the system. After it is initialized the cartridges will be about half empty. That might be only 40 or 50 ml for some printers that normally use 220ml carts!
That hasn't been my experience with Epson. AFAIK the initial cartridges have a full load which is depleted by the need to charge the system.
And of course since the cartridges are small the effect is not same.Floyd L. DavidsonEric Stevens
What Peter is trying to tell you (and I have not verified that this is true) is that to his understanding the Epson 4900 brand new is supplied with a set of full sized 200ml carts, and after the system in initialized the first time it has something greater than 150ml of ink per cart. That is a total of 11 carts, with 1650ml of useable ink that would normally cost you about $825.
THat's my understanding also. It's what is implied by the brochure etc. It's also what I believe happens with the 28xx and the 38xx, except that they have smaller cartridges than the 4900.
See the difference?Floyd L. DavidsonEric Stevens
Note that the Espon 4880 came with 8 each 110ml carts, and half of that was used to charge the system. The extra ink was worth about $200.
I will go away and try and sort this out, but not tonight.Floyd L. Davidson
What you get with an Epson 2880, that uses 11.4ml carts, is a pitance that has no significance at all.