Subject | Re: converting raw images from Canon EOS 600D |
From | Floyd L. Davidson |
Date | 12/01/2013 05:10 (11/30/2013 19:10) |
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Newsgroups | rec.photo.digital |
Follows | Tony Cooper |
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Tony CooperWell, not really. I've been aware since I was a teenager that I am able to very rapidly sort images (paintings, photos, whatever) based on what I like (emotional impact of viewing). The problem was that I had no idea, as a teenager, what exactly caused me to like any given image. And it really wasn't until I was well into my 30's that I started to get a handle on that.
On Sat, 30 Nov 2013 13:11:55 -0900, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:Tony CooperFor the high-volume photographer, organization for selection is the most time-consuming aspect. If that photographer took 1,000 shots of an event, reviewing those 1,000 shots and determining which are worthy of efforts in post is the part that takes up time. The actual post work on the individual shots is minimal if the photographer has decent skills using the camera.Floyd L. Davidson
Bullshit son. I use a highly modified version of a very old program called XV to sort images. Going through 1000 pictures takes about 15 to 20 minutes at most. Just about 1 per second, more or less.
The only way you can effectively sort through 1,000 images at one per second and critically evaluate the images with an eye to which will be processed, which will be kept but not processed, and which will be binned immediately is to have multiple images of a low number of shots. All you'd be doing is picking the best of a multiple series.
The program is immaterial. I can do that in Bridge or in FastStone. The *program* doesn't tell you which image is the one you want to process in post. The program simply allows you to move from image to image and display it full screen.Trust me, the program is not immaterial. As I noted the one I use has been highly customized. After several years of using it I put in some really tedious days of work to make it do things in ways that suited my needs. I can, for example, copy each selected image to a common directory, which is handy when I want to sort through a few thousands of archived images and pull out ones that fit some criteria. When sorting images just copied from the camera, there is the option to skip to the next, to put in into a "rejected" directory, or to move it to one of several possible subdirectories. Now, this doesn't show all of them at once, and doesn't normally show thumbnails, and no matter what the image size they all show up, one at a time, the same size on the screen. A separate window pops up with the list and with the command buttons (none are icons, they all have text labels). Moving up or down the list for a full sized display can be done with a keyboard action or with a mouse click. The same for 10% size changes or 2x or x/2 size changes. Cropping out a selection to view uses the mouse. Typically I sort images with one hand on the keyboard and one hand on the mouse. Touching the space bar goes to the next image, and clicking the mouse put it into the selected subdirectory.
If it's an event, while each image may be a different view of - say - a crowd scene - the one-second claim only says you're picking the possible hits from the sure misses.Don't read into it something that isn't there! I did not say that I do every image at 1 per second. I said that 1000 images can be done in 15 to 20 minutes. Many of them might be two per second. But sometimes I might have to take 5 minutes to decide which one out of 20.
I would surely hope that you're spending more than one second on the "possible hits".You have to read what I said...
If I'm shooting a crowd scene, I'm going to spend much more than a second on even the ones that look like sure misses. Sometimes what misses as the primary scene is a winner if cropped to something not noticed when framing the images.That would have been the major speed bump for me 20 years ago. Today I'm pretty clear about composition and content that will produce what I want. Of course time goes on and we all change... so one of the fun things in life is to go back through archives and find images that I didn't spot when it was taken.