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Sandman
SubjectRe: Eric will argue about everything, for days (was: Re: Adobe's Low hanging)
FromSandman
Date08/05/2014 12:14 (08/05/2014 12:14)
Message-ID<slrnlu1c1n.bh0.mr@irc.sandman.net>
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FollowsEric Stevens
FollowupsTony Cooper (4h & 35m) > Sandman
Eric Stevens (18h & 1m) > Sandman

In article <5bvvt9lm4gocgncucochg532blbn7j2ubi@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens wrote:

Eric Stevens
Sandman: "What "switch" was this? You say it's an internal component, and the topic was "moving parts" so you seem to imply that inside your iPhone there was a mechanical physically moving "switch" that was broken. Having seen the insides of many iPhones (I have a friend that repair them), I can assure you that no such switch exists."

Quoting out of context hides the fact that at that time we were discussing the on/off switch for the iPhone ring sound. It's got nothing to do with Hall effect switches.

No, we (as in Peter, nospam and me) was *not* discussing the ring/vibrate switch, since that's an external switch. Peter posted about someone at Apple having told him that an internal switch was broken in his iPhone. I questioned that claim, pointing out that there are no internal switches in an iPhone.

This is indeed what happens when you quote things out of context.

Sandman
Or it could have done you well to learn to read - I am talking about not only moving parts above, but also about the *iPhone*.

Again, you were lying and you got caught, you provided the proof for your own lies and failed to retract or support them. Still lying.

Eric Stevens
If I was wrong I will admit I to being wrong but there is no way I will admit to lying.

So, where is your admittance?

Unless you are admitting to your error and retracting it, you *are* lying, whether or not you admit to lying or not.

As I point out below, just a little further up the thread you were discussing iPads. I don't know when within the discussion you switched to iPhones.

No, YOU were the one that started to talk about iPads, not I. The discussion had only been about iPhones up until you joined it and started to talk about iPad batteries.

Read what I wrote above. The diiscussion WAS in the context of the iPhone.

Sandman
Yes, read what you wrote above - here is your claim:

"You are also the guy who claimed there are no switches in iPads"

Your above quote does *not* substantiate that incorrect claim from you. Either retract the claim or support it.

Eric Stevens
I've already acknowedged that you were talking about mechanical switches. I know you have read it as you have responded to the article.

Sandman
What you have not acknowledge is that you made a claim about me having said something about switches in *iPads* and your supposed support showed me talking about *iPhones*.

Eric Stevens
What do you think you were talking about when on 24 Jul 2014 08:43:10 GMT in Message-ID: <slrnlt1i4r.4o8.mr@irc.sandman.net>you wrote

"But that's not the end of the fun - Eric is making a huge deal about the supposed magnetic switch in the iPad. Only, it's not a switch at all. It's a magnetic sensor. Ooops."

What I am *not* saying above is that there are no switches in an iPad, contrary to your claim.

There *are* no switches inside an iPad, but I have never made the claim you incorrectly attributed to me. You were incorrect and you refuse to admit it.

[To save more turbulence I will remind you that I had already suggested that it was most likely a Hall effect switch. Call it a sensor if you like, but it is used as a switch.]

Your ignorance is of no importance here, either.

That's correct, right at the beginning of the thread, you (and we) were talking about iPads. This is your thread, your subject.

Incorrect. You started to talk about iPads, not I. I have merely been correcting your misinformation.

Sandman
You have yet to support the above claim, or retracted it. You remain a liar.

You did not remedy this in this post either.

The first post is where you made your schoolyard insult like you were a 7 year old boy, and the rest are all posts in direct succession from it, with the last being the one I am currently replying to.

See how substantiation works, yet?

Eric Stevens
You call that a personal insult? All it was was a justified comment on your line of argument at the time. A bit primitive, I will agree, but definitely justified.

Sandman
NIce attempt at a diversion. The above is substantiation that your claim that it was a quote from another thread is incorrect.

Eric Stevens
I will accept that. I was going by memory.

You shouldn't. Your memory never works.

Sandman
Calling someone "Dumb-brain", regardless of how utterly idiotic and immature it makes yourself look, certainly qualifies as a personal insult. Trying desperately to pass it off as a "justified comment" changes nothing.

Eric Stevens
You don't have a reputation for being friendly and when you launch an attack on a person for a matter which has already been amicably settled between the parties you can expect to be put back in your place.

I am never the one that starts with the name calling, you trolls are. Like clock work. When you've lost an argument, the name calling follows shortly after. It's a tell-tale sign.

That's what happened. You set the tone by starting a thread which is a personal attack and getting things wrong in everything you wrote. What do you expect: to be welcomed with rose petals?

Here are more incorrect statements, let's list them:

1. I started this thread. 2. This thread is a personal attack.

I eagerly (not likely) await support for those statements. Failure to do so will brand you a liar... again.

-- Sandman[.net]

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