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SubjectRe: Adobe's Low hanging .... ?
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Date07/13/2014 05:25 (07/12/2014 23:25)
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In article <d6u1s9dgadb0c0njvd1j43g5nomfpu8pkb@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>wrote:

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what you've shown above is that it's vital to have backups.

Eric Stevens
I T I S V I T A L T O H A V E B A C K U P S B E C A U S E T H E C L O U D C A N L O S E D A T A which is contrary to your statement "a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost".

anything can lose data. the cloud is no different.

local hard drives can crash and lose data, and i don't see anyone bitching about that.

if anything, the cloud is *more* reliable because the cloud service will be doing a much, much better job of backing up data than users ever would.

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*any* system can crash, whether it's the cloud or a local hard drive. the question is when, not if.

Eric Stevens
So now you are beginning to recognise that.

What about all those people who have been lured by the promise of 'backup in the cloud'?

what about them?

what about all those people who have been lured by having a backup sitting right next to their computer, and if their house burns down, they lose *both* ?

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in the event something fails, you replace the failed component or wait for the cloud service to do it and restore from a backup if needed.

nothing is lost. it's just an annoyance.

Eric Stevens
You are oblivious to facts. There are many examples of data being lost in cloud storage.

there are also many examples of data being lost in local storage. so what?

the point is that the *user* never loses any data.

if the cloud service fails, the user still has multiple local copies, including on their main hard drive. they might not even *know* the cloud service had a hiccup.

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now, there will always be stupid people who don't make backups, which means they might lose data when something fails, but that's because they're stupid enough to not have a backup.

Eric Stevens
So now you are acknowledging that data can be lost in the cloud.

data can be lost anywhere and anytime.

the cloud is no different, other than it's *more* reliable.

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that's not a failure of the cloud. that's a failure of their own doing.

Eric Stevens
So don't use the cloud for backup.

the cloud can be used for backup, however, that's not what it's really for. that's one of the key misunderstandings people have.

some people, including on this thread, think the cloud is the only storage for files, that once you upload, you then delete what's on your hard drive. that's not how it works.

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when (not if) their local hard drive fails, they'll lose data too.

Eric Stevens
Unless they have copied it into a safe backup.

which could be the cloud.