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SubjectRe: Adobe's Low hanging .... ?
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Date07/19/2014 23:05 (07/19/2014 17:05)
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In article <lqej5t0md8@news4.newsguy.com>, PeterN <peter.new@nospam.verizon.net>wrote:

Sandman
No, the threshold to access has been greatly elevated. It can be done, but since you have a backup and your data hasn't been lost, it is not worth it for you to access the data.

If your phone, and your phone only, contained the launch codes to US missile bases, and an "internal switch" made the phone "kaput", then the data would not be considered lost, and would be retrieved by a number of different data retrieval processes.

As it is, your data wasn't valuable enough for you to retrieve the data, since you had a backup and your data wasn't actually lost.

PeterN
All agreed.

My comment was made in response to a statement that the iPhone has no moving parts. It obviously does.

Sandman
It sure does. But it has no moving parts that affect its ability to lose data, which was the subject.

PeterN
If the on/off switch stopped working I could not easily access the data.

wrong.

first of all, there is no on/off switch on ios devices.

what you're calling an on/off switch is actually a sleep/wake switch and whether it works or not makes no difference whatsoever.

in fact, *all* of the buttons and switches can be broken and the data on the device will be fully accessible.

Forgetting backup, if data cannot reasonably be accessed, it is lost.

if it can be accessed at all, then it's not lost, by definition, and you don't get to 'forget' a backup unless you want to lose the data.

also, 'reasonably accessed' is vague. what's reasonable to one person is not the same as what's reasonable to another.

The only data on my phone is basically my contact list. While my contact list can be reconstructed, it is not easily accessible on my phone.

if it can be reconstructed, then it's not lost, by definition, and your contacts are almost certainly in the cloud and/or a backup, so the 'reconstruction' is trivial. restore the new device and it's done. with the cloud it will happen in the background.

Sandman
Your supposed "internal switch" is not a moving part.

PeterN
Can't say.

then why did you bring it up?

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