Google| Subject | Re: Adobe's Low hanging .... ? |
| From | Sandman |
| Date | 07/18/2014 15:31 (07/18/2014 15:31) |
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In article <15c57cce-8385-4107-bbbb-518cc30114ae@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave wrote:
No, he had backup.Whisky-daveSandmanWhisky-daveSandmannospamPeterN
since you admit to having a backup, there can't be data loss.
The phone data is no longer available on the phone.
But your data is not lost, right?
Wrong the data is still lost you can get identical data back id indeed it has been backed up.
I.e. his data is not lost.
His data was lost.
It wouldn't be a backup if it didn't.Whisky-daveSandmanSandmanWhisky-dave
Also, the data on the phone *is* available, only not easily so.
But if you can't get it, it's considered lost, that's what lost means.
But he can get it. Only not easily. So then it's not lost.
Only if the backup actualy contains the data.
No we're not.Whisky-daveIf you lose yuor keys you can get anothe rset vut that doesn;t mean you never lost your keys.Sandman
Comparing physical objects to binary data is never a good idea.
why not we're talking about how words are used.
That's idiotic. Just because you can't reach them under the sofa, that doesn't mean they're lost. They're still right there under your nose.Whisky-daveSandmanWhisky-davePeterNSandman
The phone is kaput. The data on the phone is lost
No, the threshold to access has been greatly elevated.
Another way to say lost.
Ah, so if you drop your keys and they fall under the sofa, and you have a back problem, the keys are lost, ey?
yes
So, the existence of a company that prides themselves in being able to recover data from pretty much any data media known to mankind is proof that data can be lost?SandmanSandmanWhisky-dave
It can be done, but since you have a backup and your data hasn't been lost, it is not worth it for you to access the data.
'if' there is a backup.
Which there was.Whisky-daveSandmanIf your phone, and your phone only, contained the launch codes to US missile bases, and an "internal switch" made the phone "kaput", then the data would not be considered lost, and would be retrieved by a number of different data retrieval processes.Whisky-dave
if the phone caught fire then the chance if the SIMM surviving would be small. So in that case data can be lost. This happened to a friends imac, the magic smoke appeared or rather was smelt.
<http://www.flashbackdata.com/data-recovery/media-types.html>
cheers that, proves data can be lost otherwise such aservice wouldn't exist.
There is NO guarentee they can get you're data back is there.If someone can, these guys can. And in the case of Peter, whose only problem was a supposed "internal switch", they most definitely could have.
-- Sandman[.net]
07/10/2014-
