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In article <4gr9s9pf5iboqhkeangn78v41ccun5qb99@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>wrote:

Eric Stevens
I was pointing out that there are unique risks associated with phones and that they are less secure storage for data than laptops.

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the only risk is for theft.

otherwise, they're *more* secure since there are no moving parts to fail.

PeterN
Which model of any smart phone has no moving parts?

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all of them.

buttons and switches do not count since those do not store data and even if one fails, the data is intact.

you really have no clue, do you?

Eric Stevens
You really have difficulty in expressing what you mean. You previously wrote "a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost" when you really meant a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost as it should be stored in a copy else where.

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there is no need to say that since the default is for a copy of the data in the cloud.

not only that, but one of the key advantages of the cloud multiple devices having access, so it's probably in many places. dropbox is a good example.

now ask yourself how many people have only one copy of their data on a hard drive. the answer is a lot. *they* are the ones who are going to lose data.

Eric Stevens
Now you say smartphones are "*more* secure since there are no moving parts to fail" when you really meant smartphones are *more* secure since there are no moving parts to fail except buttons and switches which do not store data.

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data storage is either on a hard drive or flash memory, not buttons and switches.

when someone says no moving parts with regards to data storage, they mean no spinning disk.

only an idiot would bring up switches. they do move but that makes no difference to the data. even if every button and switch was broken, the data is unaffected.

Eric Stevens
Are you really saying that it is not possible for the failure of a button or switch to cause the loss of data? You will have to be very brave to say that: just because you don't know or can't think of an example doesn't mean it can't happen.

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yes.

data is not stored in a button or switch.