Google| Subject | Re: Adobe's Low hanging .... ? |
| From | Whisky-dave |
| Date | 07/15/2014 14:59 (07/15/2014 05:59) |
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| Follows | Eric Stevens |
On Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:19:16 UTC+1, Eric Stevens wrote:
Eric Stevens
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 21:53:53 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:nospam
In article <vfv8s9516jf75ugsknatnnr6ifc4fl8fot@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>wrote:nospamif you were paying *any* attention at all to this thread, or even the post to which you replied to here, you'd realize that the entire point is that the cloud is *not* the sole repository for data.Eric Stevens
In some cases there is. There are many ill-advised people of the smart-phone brigade who believe that the cloud is a safe place to keep all their messages, images and videos that have overflowed from their phone.
that's no different than having only one copy on a hard drive.
If you can't access the data then it is considered lost in most cases for most people.Eric Stevensnospamit has nothing to do with the cloud.Eric Stevens
Yet there are people who have absolute faith in the cloud.
there are people who have absolute faith in hard drives, dvds too. so what? the cloud is nothing special. people try to bash the cloud with all these horror stories about what if they go away. what if your hard drive 'goes away' by failing, something that is *far* more likely to happen? what if bitrot makes a cd/dvd unreadable, something that is *far* more likely to happen? that's why people make backups. any one of those can go poof and the data is backed up on another media. it's just a hassle to replace whatever failed. nothing is lost. now, if someone puts all their eggs in *one* basket, whether it's the cloud, a hard drive or a dvd, they are at risk, but again, that's a risk of having one copy. it has nothing to do with the cloud.
It has something to do with "a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost".
A bit like keys if you don't know where they are you consider them lost until found, there's a folder called that somewhere ;-) In some case you'd don't know somethings missign until you look for it.nospamEric Stevens
furthermore, the cloud is going to be much, much more reliable than anything a home user can do and even corporate users. just about all cloud services have multiple data centers for redundancy, so if a disaster strikes one, nothing is lost. most users do not have multiple offsite backups and of those who do, it's rarely up to date since it's a pain to keep it current.
All true but "a cloud outage can be annoying, and the data might be lost".
Only if the user is inteligent enough to know that even with cloud storage data can be lost. Had that last night when I got a ping of -1 , something must have gone wrong and data lost otherwise I wouldn;t have got that result.You did not help when you said "a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost". This can be interpreted as meaning that even if the cloud goes down the data will still be there when it comes back up. Well, it might be be but there is no guarantee that it will be.nospam
i meant what i said. no data is lost. the cloud service can go away entirely and without waring (which almost never happens but nevertheless) and the user *still has the data on their device* plus other backups.
Eric StevensNot just on the device but on mutiple HDDs, even though HDDs also don;t lose data unless some user deletes them. Knowing he uses a Mac he probbalty uses time machine and it backs uop every hour and we all know one backup might not be enough but why doe ssomeone that states data can;t be lost even bother to backuip in the first place.
So your faith in the cloud is conditional on the user having a copy of the data on their device.
nospam
all they do is find another cloud service and resync. it's a hassle, but that's the extent of it. it's also the same as if one of their hard drives failed. they buy another and copy everything to it.
Of course it won;t be lost you just won;t be able to find it that's all ;-)Eric Stevens
Which is not what you implied when you wrote "a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost". ... data won't be lost. ... data won't be lost. ... data won't be lost. ... data won't be lost. ... data won't be lost. Oh yeah?
07/10/2014-
