Eric Stevens
All I claimed was that Apple called it a 'switch'. See Step 28 of https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+4+Vibrate+Ring+Switch+Replacement/4334 where the switch is shown being removed by a pair of pliers.

Sandman
Again, where is *APPLE* calling the internal components of the ring/vibrate switch a switch. Did you think the above link was to an Apple source?

Eric Stevens
http://support.apple.com/kb/ta38610 "A dedicated switch on the side of iPhone lets you quickly turn ringing on or off."

Yes, it's an external switch mounted inside the iPhone.

Hullo ..... ?

Sandman
No, it isn't mounted inside the iPhone, since it is externally accessible. If it was mounted inside the phone, it would not be accessible from the outside.

Eric Stevens
You shoull add the word 'completely' to your English vocabulary.

Sandman
Which is why I didn't claim you said so, and used the words "it seems".

I see you failed to give any examples of external switches. I take it that according to you there doesn't exist a common device with an external switch? That's pretty intresting.

Eric Stevens
It's what you would expect.

Sandman
Indeed, I don't expect you to give examples to support your position.

Eric Stevens
My position is that a switch mounted inside the casing is an internal switch, even if you can operate it from the outside.

We are still talking about the switch in the iPhone. It was you who decided to call it a banana and I just went along with you.

Sandman
Now you're misrepresenting the truth (again). I said that YOU can call it a banana for all you like. I never called it a banana.

(No comment from Eric here)

Eric Stevens
Why bother to comment when you have surreptitiously deleted relevant text?

Sandman
Sandman 07/21/2014 <slrnlsp8ni.jb7.mr@irc.sandman.net>

"You are free to call the switch an internal banana if you so desire"

I accept your apology.

But, as expected, Eric would never willfully admit to a mistake and actually offer an apology.

Eric Stevens
Via the control accessible through the hole in the side of the case.

Sandman
Ah, you must be in reference to the external switch.

Eric Stevens
See Step 27 of https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iPhone+4+Vibrate+Ring+Switch+Replacement/4334 How can you call that lot external?

In which of the several ways possible to apply your statement to my paragraph immediately above?

Sandman
You are correct that I talking about a supposed switch inside the iPhone. I am talking about the external ring/vibrate switch.

Eric Stevens
We have been round this so many times that I'm quite sick of it. I am particularly sick of the dishonest way in which you delete text and try to twist what other people have said. Don't expect me to respond to you on this subject again.