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SubjectRe: Adobe's Low hanging .... ?
Fromnospam
Date07/15/2014 19:04 (07/15/2014 13:04)
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In article <f7f33ed1-5850-4ba5-b5fd-fb57cb614e25@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave <whisky.dave@gmail.com>wrote:

Eric Stevens
You really have difficulty in expressing what you mean. You previously wrote "a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost" when you really meant a cloud outage might be annoying, but the data won't be lost as it should be stored in a copy else where.

nospam
there is no need to say that since the default is for a copy of the data in the cloud.

Whisky-dave
Why is that the default for most it isn't.

it's the default for the cloud to be a copy, not the sole copy.

someone has to go well out of their way to upload to the cloud and then delete all local copies on all devices.

nospam
not only that, but one of the key advantages of the cloud multiple devices having access, so it's probably in many places. dropbox is a good example.

Whisky-dave
Just got an email from IT services saying the system is now up and running after being unavailble for 25 hours.

but you didn't lose anything.

nospam
now ask yourself how many people have only one copy of their data on a hard drive. the answer is a lot. *they* are the ones who are going to lose data.

Whisky-dave
why would they lose data, you've claimed that only the user canb delete their data. You might also need to understand teh word lose in teh context of data too.

if then have only one copy, they *will* lose it.

the question is when, not if.

nospam
data storage is either on a hard drive or flash memory, not buttons and switches.

Whisky-dave
It can be altered by buttons or switches, and created by them of course, I've had a screwdriver alter data.

obviously if you are going to maliciously destroy your device, you will lose data. duh.

Are yuo saying that because a phone or camera uses flash media the data can't be 'lost'

until it's copied to another device (or a second card for cameras that have two cards), there is a real risk of losing data.

nospam
only an idiot would bring up switches. they do move but that makes no difference to the data. even if every button and switch was broken, the data is unaffected.

Whisky-dave
it makes a lot of differnce get some water or dirt in a switch and it'll go open or closed randomly, buttons/switches go faulty. I guess you've never had a faulty keyboard.

a faulty keyboard does not cause data loss.

the hard drive or ssd is unaffected.

Eric Stevens
Are you really saying that it is not possible for the failure of a button or switch to cause the loss of data? You will have to be very brave to say that: just because you don't know or can't think of an example doesn't mean it can't happen.

nospam
yes.

Whisky-dave
You've never had a problem with the early Mac 512ks with the reset switch on the side either just reseting re-booting the mac or going into programmers mode.

nothing would be lost because whatever is on the hard drive or floppy drive is still there.

nospam
data is not stored in a button or switch.

Whisky-dave
But buttons and switches change data. An intermitent switch can cause all sorts of problems.

nope.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4707339 I took it into the apple store today. The genius said that it's a little common and he switched out the phone under warranty.

a lock button failure does not cause data loss.