Google| Subject | Re: Adobe's Low hanging .... ? |
| From | Whisky-dave |
| Date | 07/18/2014 18:14 (07/18/2014 09:14) |
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On Friday, 18 July 2014 16:51:25 UTC+1, Sandman wrote:
Sandman
In article <30f29072-17b7-4ce6-809c-81d6a7ca1983@googlegroups.com>, Whisky-dave wrote:Whisky-daveWhisky-daveSandman
His data was lost.
No, he had backup.
once he knew it was lost he could recover it
SandmanHow many backups.
It wasn't lost, he had backup.
http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/hazards-of-the-cloud-data-storage-services-crash-sets-back-researchers/52571Whisky-daveSandman
yuo don;t know you've lost data until it's not there.
Not sure what this is even supposed to mean.
Then why would you access the backup ? or perhaps it;'s an archive IF you know the duffernce that is.Whisky-daveSandman
You have to know you're datas lost before you get it from a backup.
A requirement to restore data from a backup is not knowledge about another copy of it being lost.
not everyone can it appears, but then you don;t have as much expeinece of this as I do.Whisky-daveSandman
Which hopefully actually exists and can be recovered.
It did, and could.
They thouht they had a backup but it was useless as the discs had crashed. The automated backup hadn't happened because of a power failure that crashed the drives.Whisky-daveSandman
We've had whole servers go down and no been able to recover from a backup.
So you didn't have backup. That's stupid, and I hope smarter people are in charge since then.
it's why it's called a backup. Because in theory you can get back up and running.Whisky-daveSandman
A backup is useless unbless you know you can get the data back.
A backup isn't a backup unless it provides data to be brought back from it.
Any fool can find a 1 or a 0 getting them in teh right order is the tricky part.SandmanWhisky-daveSandmanAh, so if you drop your keys and they fall under the sofa, and you have a back problem, the keys are lost, ey?Whisky-dave
yes
That's idiotic. Just because you can't reach them under the sofa, that doesn't mean they're lost. They're still right there under your nose.
they can't be under your nose unless your nose is down the back of the sofa. The word lost is from teh individuals perception that's what lost means.
And according to you, something you can not reach is lost. That's a pretty idiotic standpoint.
but they are useless to you, or about as much use as a hassleblad on the moon.Whisky-daveSandman
If you know the keys are there then they aren't consoidered lost
You just contradicted yourself. In the scenario, you saw the keys fall under the sofa. You knew perfectly well where they were.
Whisky-dave
cheers that, proves data can be lost otherwise such aservice wouldn't exist.
Sandman
So, the existence of a company that prides themselves in being able to recover data from pretty much any data media known to mankind is proof that data can be lost?
No shit sherlock.Whisky-daveSandman
Yes.
Your logic chip is damaged.
here's a damaged chip https://www.flickr.com/photos/whiskydave/3108182722/
So some data can be lost, people have lost data that is a fact and lost data that they thought or assumed was backed up.Whisky-daveSandman
If someone can..... yes some people can get some data back.
These people can get most data back. Not some data. Most data.
That is the reason why you should have more than one backup set. Although I guess if you bel;eive that one backup is enough because a backup will always enable you to get yuor data back that's fine by me.
I'll contiue with my at least 2 complete sets and multiple sets for more important stuff.
07/10/2014-
