nospam
since you admit to having a backup, there can't be data loss.

PeterN
The phone data is no longer available on the phone.

Sandman
But your data is not lost, right?

Whisky-dave
Wrong the data is still lost you can get identical data back id indeed it has been backed up.

Sandman
Also, the data on the phone *is* available, only not easily so.

Whisky-dave
But if you can't get it, it's considered lost, that's what lost means.

If you lose yuor keys you can get anothe rset vut that doesn;t mean you never lost your keys.

PeterN
The phone is kaput. The data on the phone is lost

Sandman
No, the threshold to access has been greatly elevated.

Whisky-dave
Another way to say lost.

Sandman
It can be done, but since you have a backup and your data hasn't been lost, it is not worth it for you to access the data.

Whisky-dave
'if' there is a backup.

Sandman
If your phone, and your phone only, contained the launch codes to US missile bases, and an "internal switch" made the phone "kaput", then the data would not be considered lost, and would be retrieved by a number of different data retrieval processes.

Whisky-dave
if the phone caught fire then the chance if the SIMM surviving would be small. So in that case data can be lost. This happened to a friends imac, the magic smoke appeared or rather was smelt.