Google| Subject | Re: Adobe's Low hanging .... ? |
| From | Tony Cooper |
| Date | 07/17/2014 16:10 (07/17/2014 10:10) |
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On 17 Jul 2014 07:22:45 GMT, Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:
SandmanIf you have concluded that the original passage has to be removed or not visible, then you misunderstand the explanation. When something is "taken out of context", it is discussed without referring to the context in which it originally appeared and as if the surrounding context doesn't apply to the meaning.
In article <lq6fes0219n@news6.newsguy.com>, PeterN wrote:SandmanPeterNnospam
And just where did I used the word "removed." Do learn to read.
you said "selectively take comments out of context".the entire post was quoted (again) and nothing was removed at all, therefore nothing could be taken out of context.do learn to read.PeterN
Do look up what the phrase: "taken out of context,: means. You will quickly see that it does not mean anything was removed.
Ehm, if something is taken *out* of context, then the context need to be missing, right? Looking it up, as per your request, I find this:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_quoting_out_of_context>
Which, in short says it means:
"The practice of quoting out of context, sometimes referred to as "contextomy", is a logical fallacy and a type of false attribution in which a passage is removed from its surrounding matter in such a way as to distort its intended meaning"
So, according to this explanation, it surely means you have to remove something in order to take something out of context. Which incidentally is exactly how I have used the phrase all these years. And by logic, it's the only thing it *can* mean, seeing how it couldn't be taken out of context if the context is still right there. :)
If this statement is made:
"The United State's borders are secure as they can be considering the number of people assigned to keeping our borders secured."
And someone says:
"You say our 'borders are secure', but hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants cross our borders every year."
The phrase "borders are secure" has been quoted out of context even if the original statement is presented intact and visible to read. The original statement mitigated the statement that our borders are secure, but this additional context was removed from the discussion.
The logical fallacy involved is the distortion of the meaning of the quoted words in the original passage by extracting them and treating them as if they were not affected by the surrounding context.
So, yes, it can be taken out of context if the context is still right there. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando FL
07/10/2014-
