Google| Subject | Re: Lenses and sharpening |
| From | Savageduck |
| Date | 09/22/2014 07:57 (09/21/2014 22:57) |
| Message-ID | <201409212257599468-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
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| Newsgroups | rec.photo.digital |
| Follows | Eric Stevens |
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On 2014-09-22 04:57:48 +0000, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>said:
Eric StevensThat is neither reversible, nor non-destructive, unless you take a few extra steps. What original are you talking about, RAW or JPEG?
On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 00:42:07 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:nospamEric Stevens
In article <l8ku1ahp2uv0mbpknihf0696kio3ghisa0@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>wrote:nospamSandmanEric Stevens
And it's also born out of ignorance, because such a consideration is only important if you're using ancient tools, which Floyd is. For him, he HAS to take such things into consideration because his tools are so primitive that if he makes a change he can't revert it unless it has a counter-algorithm.
Even with the most ancient of tools you can achieve the 'undo' or reversion effect you are talking about simply by doing your editing on a copy of the original. I was doing this with Photo Paint macros, backin the early 90's.
that does *not* give you the reversibility because it's not a non-destructive workflow.
Of course it is: I did it on a copy. Always, even now I never modify the original.
For Photoshop: If you are working on a RAW file, there are no changes made to the "original". With Photoshop I can open a RAW file with, or without ACR adjustments. Once open, I can make all adjustments and edits non-destructively and I can readjust/reverse any filters. If you are only working JPEGs it is probably best to work a copy. However, you can still run with a non-destructive, reversible workflow.
For Lightroom: Whether you are using imported RAW files, converted import DNGs, or JPEGs, you only have a non-destructive workflow. Each adjustment or edit, is fully reversible, and that is even if you don't work from *Virtual Copies*. However, the big caveat is, if you choose to edit in an external editor (Photoshop) after making LR adjustments and edits, the edit copy is going to have the LT adjustments embedded, and those will not be reversible. Unless you open as a Smart Object in Photoshop. Then even that workflow will be fully non-destructive and reversible.
Lightroom and Photoshop are meant to work together and can do so to your advantage, or you can ignore all you are being told, and lose yourself in the arcane esoterica of the mathematics, & physics of the adjustments, and edits, missing the point of having tha powerful software right there on your computer. Stop mind fucking and get busy working on your images. You might even consider revisiting some of your older shots to see what new techniques can produce.
-- Regards,
Savageduck
09/13/2014-
