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Re: Lenses and sharpening

Floyd L. Davidson
SubjectRe: Lenses and sharpening
FromFloyd L. Davidson
Date09/20/2014 14:16 (09/20/2014 04:16)
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Sandman <mr@sandman.net>wrote:

Sandman
In article <87k34zrs9f.fld@barrow.com>, Floyd L. Davidson wrote:

Eric Stevens
Unfortunately he knows too much, compared with the rest of us. I did wonder when he threw in that JPEG conversion but I finally he concluded that he was trying to make a point.

Floyd L. Davidson
I'll have to admit that when I used JPEG as an example format it just never occurred to me that anyone would try to argue the absurd point this discussion has taken. I did not suggest JPEG formatting was not lossy or that it was reversible, in any way. I did say that sharpen is reversible and unsharp mask is not.

Sandman
The point we're making fun of is that you did add a lossy middle step to your claim about the first process being reversed by the third process with a lossy process in the middle.

The JPEG lossy format doesn't allow the original image to be resurected, but it doesn't prevent reversing the sharpening.

If you knew anything about image processing, you wouldn't have added a lossy process in the middle and the claim that steps taken before it could be reversed. But here we are.

Eric Stevens
You can't do that if the original sharpening was USM as it is not fully reversible.

Floyd L. Davidson
That is exactly the point. It just is not reversible.

Sandman
That is, if you're using antique software and know nothing about modern software, in which case everything is 100% reversible. But hey, that's life on a 486 PC running ancient linux.

Here we go again, poor Sandman is jealous of the equipment I use. Apparently also jealous of the software too.

-- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/ Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) floyd@apaflo.com

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