Subject | Re: Lenses and sharpening |
From | Savageduck |
Date | 09/16/2014 07:55 (09/15/2014 22:55) |
Message-ID | <2014091522554859336-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
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Newsgroups | rec.photo.digital |
Follows | Floyd L. Davidson |
Floyd L. DavidsonNote: my words were; “not entirely validâ€. Meaning there is certainly an element of validity to your statement, because apparently (I don’t know this for sure) you don’t use a non-destructive workflow.
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>wrote:SavageduckFloyd L. Davidson
On 2014-09-15 22:33:57 +0000, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz>said:Eric StevensSavageduck
On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:15:37 -0700, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>wrote:SavageduckEric Stevens
On 2014-09-15 16:39:45 +0000, floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) said:Floyd L. DavidsonSavageduck
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>wrote:nospamFloyd L. Davidson
In article <87bnqh1mby.fld@barrow.com>, Floyd L. Davidson <floyd@apaflo.com>wrote:Floyd L. Davidsonnospam
UnSharpMask is not reversible.
it is with a non-destructive workflow.
I'm sorry that you don't understand the meaning of that.
I know your feelings regarding Photoshop, but using Adobe's *Smart Object* concept provides a different level of non-destructive workflow. Creating a new adjustment layer and converting it to a *Smart Object* gives one the ability to apply any filter, including USM and any of the other sharpening tools or filters to that *Smart Object*. If the particular adjustment results are not to one's liking, then double clicking on that filter in the *Smart Object* layer will reopen the filter dialog to allow changes to the filter parameters. In the case shown below I have applied USM to a *Smart Object* and I can return to it as often as I want to adjust the USM parameters, all non-destructively. <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1295663/FileChute/screenshot_900.jpg> All adjustments made to *Smart Objects*, in Photoshop terms, are non-destructive. I fully expect you to tell me I am wrong.
I will tell you that you are discussing a point which is not the point raised by Floyd. So too is nospam, but that is not surprising. Floyd was referring to a reversible function: run it forwards and you get sharpening; run it backwards and you get blur. Or the other way around if you wish.
I got what Floyd was talking about when he was talking of high pass sharpening, and reversing it by applying the corresponding reverse parameter blur. However, he also stated above, "UnSharpMask is not reversible". My point addressed the fact that for some of us, that is not an entirely valid statement.
That is in fact a valid statement. The USM function is not reversible.
That isn't a opinion, it's a fact.It is certainly a fact in a world where you have taken that step to merge layers and compress the file into a lossy JPEG now locked in stone. From that point on, you are correct, it is not reversible.