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Re: Ideological differences...

David Fritzinger
SubjectRe: Ideological differences between big 3 german, americans and jap trash
FromDavid Fritzinger
Date02/24/2014 18:54 (02/24/2014 12:54)
Message-ID<dfritzin-EC6136.12544224022014@news.eternal-september.org>
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FollowsBrake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
FollowupsAlan Baker (10m) > David Fritzinger
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In article <lec4ff$qrk$2@dont-email.me>, "Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC" <isquat@gmail.com>wrote:

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
On 2/22/14, 18:41, -hh wrote:

-hh
On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:05:42 AM UTC-5, Nashton wrote:

Nashton
On 2014-02-21 12:49 PM, Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC wrote:

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
Right, they fixed the ride, but now you've got problems with the fucking understeer, cause the fucking thing got fwd.

Nashton
You mean torque steer.

-hh
No, he means understeer, although not necessarily for the reason he claims.

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
When you get at least 50% of torque to the rear axle it's a piece of cace to rotate the car once you will have turned ESP off.

So yes I meant understeer in the drivetrain layout context. Though subaru with it's outgoing symmetrican layout is notoriously unwilling to rotate. I guess it's a moot point in a pig such as Q7.

FWIW, in many cases you can get oversteer in a FWD car by cutting back on the throttle in the middle of a high speed turn, when understeer is raising its ugly head. Of course this varies from car to car, depending on how the manufacturer has set up the suspension and on how good the car's grip is.