Google| Subject | Re: Ideological differences between big 3 german, americans and jap trash |
| From | Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC |
| Date | 02/21/2014 13:00 (02/21/2014 15:00) |
| Message-ID | <le7f5a$m9h$1@dont-email.me> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
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On 2/20/14, 18:14, -hh wrote:
-hhMy girlfriend routinely throws up no matter if I'm in A4 wearing sport suspenders on in my beater. The wife is considerably more resistant than that.
Lloyd Parsons wrote:Lloyd E Parsons
Like a wife and kids and the 'vacation' trip. I can tell you if they are in the car on a long trip, a performance car isn't going to impress them at all!
Me thinks 'performance' mimention is completely orthogonal to the 'family' dimension as bmw have prooven with their (fun to drive) X5 and X6 macrovans.
A4 have relatively soft suspensers (soft enough to make me swear nearly evry time I taxi as my apartment complex taxiways over the lying cops and hit the cops with the undercarriage). But it retains composure taking turns. I dunno if it got swaybars worthy of a teenage hardon or what, but it's not your average buick boat rolling into every turn no matter how mildly taken. And it does not squat on starts. And it does not dive during braking. Go figure out how zee Germans managed those feats.
-hhWhatever happened to those $2 track rides in the states, laweyrs? Or it just got considereably more expensive with "track days"?
Well, even the 'Family Car' can have some degree of "performance" fun ... I can recall riding in the back seat of a '69 Ford Falcon station wagon as Dad drove us on a hot lap around Daytona ... yeah, this was just a few decades ago, back when the general Public was still allowed to drive up, pay $2 [IIRC] and take their own car out on the track, no questions asked.
I wonder how affordable it's for zee Germans at the Nurburngring(sp?)
Around we go. Got to Turn 4 and Mom (riding shotgun) asked Dad why he wasn't going up on the high banking (IIRC, 32 degrees?) and his response was that he was simply letting the car take whatever line it was comfortable with ... and it was comfortable with going no higher than around the line on the bottom. Mom asked him how fast we were going (ie, suggesting that he could go a bit faster) and his response was something like: "Honey, I've had it floored the whole time since we left the Pits; we're doing ~110mph".That's not far off what you can pull in an normally aspirated (jap) four banger these days. Tops around 120-125mph and it takes forever to get there. Typically top speeds in a jap are drag limited while in my A4 1.8T redline and drag (miraculously or by design?) converge somewhere in the neighbourhood of 130mph (something to be said about germans here as well). Need a better autobahn to figure out if I can eke it much past that.
So all I'm saying is that germans and americans have been building cars for about the same car but somehow the former managed to produce benchmark to strive for the latter have managed to produce fuck knows what. At least below $50k.
Must've been their own way to say "fuck you poor people" on that side of the pond. Well, there is no shortage of piss poor folk saying "well, fuck you too big three in detrua I'm getting a fucking civic for 'performance' ". And so the detroit went into the great abyss...
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