Nashton
On 2014-02-24 10:06 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

Lloyd E Parsons
On 2014-02-24 10:18:18 +0000, Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC said:

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
On 2/23/14, 16:56, Nashton wrote:

Nashton
On 2014-02-23 2:23 AM, Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC wrote:

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
With Audi you get (as expected) the cabin noise levels you'd expect from an american car (something as expected you've found lacking in VW).

Nashton
Really?

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
Clarify. You are disputing which part of my statement

1. VW is on average is noiser than an audi.

2. audi cabin noise level are comparable to cabin noise level in an typical american sofa on wheels

Nashton
This one.

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
If you are willing and can pay $70k for even better sound proofing: good for you. Not so good for your pocket.

Nashton
Thanks, I'll take that under consideration when I buy my RS 5 in a few years. And the Q7 was much more than $70k. In fact, optioned out, it was closer to $90k.

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
Well, as americans say, you have a rich taste. Maybe you wear LLoyd shoes too? That $200 paid did not last a season. Fucking germans better keep to making automobiles. Speaking of seasons. I would not want RS5 ground clearance where I live. In fact I'd get a Land Rover Defender if I had the dough and was in a market for a jeep now. Would've kept A4 though for longer highway trips. But if your city utilities work like a swiss watch RS5 with an active differential in the ass would be a blast to drive. Much more so than your Q7.

American sofa cabin noise levels are good enough for most people. Otherwise no $20k appliances on wheel would leave the showroom.

Nashton
....so you're abandoning the notion that cabin noise level in NA cars is comparable to noise levels in Audis?

Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC
I've had a 93 taurus in the 90th. The cabin noise level was good enough for me even at freeway speeds. Having a six pot under the hood helped too in the city when wind noise is not an issue. And the car was cheap to run. Was not much fun driving it though which is not an issue for LLoyd.

Lloyd E Parsons
Of course, you have to define 'fun' carefully to make that last statement.

Nashton
I imagine he means something you can throw around in a corner and hang by the edge of your seat.

Lloyd E Parsons
I find the Verano to be lots of fun to drive. Yeah, I wouldn't want to road rally or go on a course with it, but still fun, but comfortable, quiet fun.

Nashton
Really, Lloyd. if you find stepping on a gas pedal and going forward fun, there is really nothing more to say.

Lloyd E Parsons
And while I could spend lots more on a car if I so chose, I can't figure out why I would want to. I'm not trying to impress anyone with my car, I don't race in any form and I do like my creature comforts. Age becomes a bigger determining factor as you get older. The cars of my younger days were a blast to drive, but I wouldn't want to be driving them now.

The Austin Healy, MG, Mustang and even the Audi were fun then, wouldn't be now.