Subject | Re: Ideological differences between big 3 german, americans and jap trash |
From | -hh |
Date | 02/24/2014 15:09 (02/24/2014 06:09) |
Message-ID | <221d8b38-683c-43ff-b55f-d5413fef45c2@googlegroups.com> |
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Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
Follows | Nashton |
NashtonWell, he is correct that the effect is more noticable when slow, because there's more torque available at the wheels due to transmission gearing.
Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLC wrote:Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
Well, understeer is mostly obvious at low speeds cause I obviously do uturns in 2nd gear. Torque steer I think is not in issue in something moderately expensive such as fwd versions of A4. The arms are of equal length I think.
This comment alone, disqualifies you from any serious discussion about steering dynamics in any type of vehicle.
Torque steer is hardly an issue with AWD/4x4 automobiles, why even mention this?One needs to understand that torque steer is due to the differences in contact patch sizes (left vs right), on the drive wheels, as this is the source of the asymmetric forces. If any of the drive force is on the front axle, then it can be perceived thorugh feedback sent through the steeering wheel.
Merely yet another reminder to you that there's far more to performance than merely a straight line 0-60mph time.Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
Any subton lotus (exige, elise) will blow doors on your Q7 in twisties.
And the purpose of this comment is...?
Handling.Brake Dive, Acceleration Squat, Body Roll Works LLCNashton
Even underpowered bmw i120 would, given the willow glen rate of twistiness of old page mill road. And so will (gasp) claustrophobic miata.
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I din't purchase a q7 to compete with subcompact girly cars. I bought it because it suits my purposes...Which is highly ego-based, not objective requirements. Afterall, its not even rated to be able to haul your alledged "7500lb" trailer.
and for a vehicle of this size, given the outstanding torque output and sweet power band, I will leave every SUV in the dust...No you won't. For example, the Q7 doesn't beat the Porsche version built on the same exact pan. You'll need to add some more qualifiers if you're not going to lose your Pink Slip.
... and once in dynamic mode (lowered air suspension), will not only outperform every SUV out there in the twisties, but most sedans as well.Real world testing says otherwise: