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Pothole queen tire thread

I hate front wheel drive, send most torque to the rear, please
SubjectPothole queen tire thread
FromI hate front wheel drive, send most torque to the rear, please
Date02/28/2014 11:13 (02/28/2014 13:13)
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Newsgroupscomp.sys.mac.advocacy
FollowsLloyd E Parsons
Followups-hh (1h & 35m) > I hate front wheel drive, send most torque to the rear, please

On 2/27/14, 20:50, Lloyd E Parsons wrote:

Lloyd E Parsons
On 2014-02-27 17:35:43 +0000, -hh said:

-hh
David Fritzinger wrote:

David Fritzinger
Potholes are not prevalent? Try driving on the roads>in NJ and NY at the present time. Many roads look as if they were in a war zone, and many, many people are losing tires, wheels and suspensions because of potholes>they have driven through.

-hh
Sure, they can get pretty nasty - I recall seeing a brief video clip on the local news within the past week or so where a disabled vehicle's right front wheel was turned 90 degrees - however, its IMO counterproductive to try to have a "who is worse?" contest, as there certainly are nightmares that crop up everywhere in the world.

That's pretty much why I characterized this as a _change_ in consumer behavior being the metric for concern, as this is locally self-normalized for whatever those local conditions are.

-hh

Lloyd E Parsons
And with many of today's cars coming with these low-profile tires potholes are more of a hazard than they used to be.

Pothole resilience is more dependent on how thoroughly sidewall is designed on a particular tire model. There might be some correlation to the sidewall thickness and having 2 plies or more probably helps but the plies contruction and material probably has more to do with its durability than the thickness.

Though there are obviously limits on both sides on how thin (frequent failures) and how thick (additional strain on suspension components due to increased unsprung weight) you can get before it becomes impractical.

(I guess) the lower you go in profile though the more manufacturer tries to save on sidewalls to keep the tire weight down so (I guess) 2 ply sidewalls are rare if at all obtanium on semislick 30-35 profile rubber bands.

(I guess) its the exact same deal with haldex "awd": the crap does not work (well if at all), but, since populace is not particularly sophisticated, manufacturers get away with it.

If you go far enough in the past 80 was considered "low profile" but I guess you'd be hard pressed to find 80s and 90s outside the trucks domain today.