Google| Subject | Re: As with our trolls, the problem wasn't the Mac Pro itself... It's the problem with the morons wh |
| From | -hh |
| Date | 02/18/2014 16:45 (02/18/2014 07:45) |
| Message-ID | <baaeb5c2-b0a1-4c8c-8199-8ebb9b97cff9@googlegroups.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.advocacy |
| Follows | sms |
| Followups | sms (1h & 9m) |
On Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:24:03 AM UTC-5, sms wrote:
sms
On 2/18/2014 6:11 AM, -hh wrote:-hh
A reasonable position given the context of a desktop PC. However, the broader market perspective is that towers are a 'dying breed' niche market, as roughly 80% of the general PC market in the West already consists of "unexpandable" products in the form of laptop computers.
smsYup, which in comparison to the use cases of Facebook (home) and MS-Office (work) is an increasingly niche application. However, what it does share with the old days is that leading edge performance hardware remains cost-effective because of the productivity gains it affords.
However the Mac Pro and Windows workstatons are not aimed at the "general PC market." They are being sold to power users doing non-linear video editing, CAD/CAM, and other CPU and graphics intensive tasks. They need multiple TB hard disks in a RAID array, multiple graphics cards, memory card readers, etc.
"The Cloud" isn't a big help unless the user has a Gb/sec connection.True, which is apparently why SANs with the likes of a Fibre Channel connections are emerging/expanding in business use.
FYI, looking at Wiki, it looks like 16GFC is what's probably being deployed, which runs at up to 12,000 Mbit/sec (= 1,500 MB/sec = 1.5GB/sec)
The Mac Pro is expandable, in a sense, if you're okay with having all the devices plugged into the cylinder and in some cases into the wall. The appeal of a tower PC, as boxy and aesthetically unappealing it may be, is that you don't need all those separate devices, cables, and power supplies.Very true, but this is following the traditional paradigm that fast storage can only be local storage...the Fibre Channel SANs are saying "no longer necessarily so", and the question is while that is fine for a larger business with deeper resource pockets, what's the technological ramifiations for Small/Medium Businesses (SMBs) and "One Man" operations? To what degree are they going to get pinched?
The Mac Pro is actually very competitively priced compared to workstations with similar processing power and graphics.Agreed, and in the context of a productivity-centric professional where time=money, the payback is quite evident. However, this observation doesn't apply to the nose-picking USENET troll whose IT interests gravitate towards games and a much lower (if any) hourly rate on projects...they simply see the hardware build as an "unnecessary expense" because it doesn't fit their use case and business model.
-hh
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