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SubjectRe: Ideological differences between big 3 german, americans and jap trash
From-hh
Date02/28/2014 21:02 (02/28/2014 12:02)
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FollowsAlan Baker
Alan Baker wrote:

Alan Baker
-hh said:

-hh
... From this perspective, the factor that you mention of the difference in timing precision & predicability of the two systems is thus a differentiator - - which has nothing to do with the 'how fast shift?' question because its metric is when the shift occurs relative to when the driver _expects_ the shift to occur.

Alan Baker
I think you'll find that the paddle shift boxes in high performance vehicles now shift precisely when the driver expects...

The DSGs are better than the Tips, but there's still room for improvement.

The human perception limit is around 77msec, so the engineering design objective should be that the shift time's average plus/minus at least two standard deviations probably needs to be in the (75 +/- 50) msec to provide adequate event-to-event consistency.

Further, the UI should be expressed such that the shift occurs consistently (within 50msec) upon a tactily perceptible break point in the shift paddle release. The rationale for invoking on the release is (a) to provide the control system with more processing time, and (b) to permit the UI to be that pulling and holding the panel is an explicit command to hold the current gear (in anticipation of the shift) until the moment of paddle release.

-hh
What Nicolas also doesn't realize is that while he's now got (barely) one month worth of firsthand experience, other posters here have orders of magnitude more experience, with both Tips and DSGs, to be more familiar with their nuances and subsequent trade-offs. Nicolas is still too wrapped up in his glossy marketing brochure hype and new car smell to realize that as always, TANSAAFL applies.

Alan Baker
What's really hilarious is that Nicolas is extoling aspects of his more expensive car and its neato, gee-whiz features... ...whilre railing against those who prefer the Mac... ...because it's more expensive and has nothing but a few neato, gee-whiz features. :-)

It certainly is quite ironic, particularly in that he can't see how he has done this to himself time and time again. He did it with computers, camera gear, cars, real estate/property, investments, sporting goods, his snowblower even... and now he's back to the well with automobiles again. At pretty much every turn, someone points out to him in detail, just how 'clothing doesn't make the man'.

-hh