Subject | Re: As with our trolls, the problem wasn't the Mac Pro itself... It's the problem with the morons |
From | Lloyd E Parsons |
Date | 02/19/2014 22:32 (02/19/2014 15:32) |
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smsInteresting list. Nasty's touted Audi is 24th on the list, way below industry average.
On 2/19/2014 7:33 AM, David Fritzinger wrote:David Fritzingersms
My personal experience is quite different. I've owned 3 Hondas in the last 16 years, and haven't had any major issues with any of them. My Acura Integra was essentially trouble free for 12 years, while my two Accords have also been essentially trouble free. Had an automatic climate control problem on my 2003 which was eventually fixed under warranty, and the lights on the display panel (for radio station, set temperature, etc) died on the same car a couple of years ago. Otherwise, except for maintenance costs, they have been pretty trouble free. Can't say that about the US cars I've owned (see a previous post in this thread). [snip]
Other than engine and transmission problems, the Hondas in my extended family have been fine.
One Accord is on its third automatic transmission (one paid for by Honda, one paid for by my brother-in-law. Another Accord is only on its second transmission (paid for by Honda). One Accord ended up with a three cylinder engine and that vehicle was disposed of.
I had one CR-V that I hated; it was the first year it came out (I know, big mistake) and there was a major design flaw that was extremely annoying; Honda acknowledged the flaw, explained the cause, and said that they would not correct it (some owners fixed it themselves using components from Ford, but I didn't). Suffice it to say, Hondas are not on my short list when shopping for a a new car. Any of the top five from <http://autos.jdpower.com/content/press-release/bTiXte5/2013-u-s-vehicle-dependability-study.htm> are brands I'd consider, and Toyota is the only non-expensive brand in that category.
The key thing with Hondas is to not keep them more than seven or eights years because major items start breaking after that. With a Toyota you can go fifteen to twenty years years.While you could go 15-20 years with nearly any car, depending on how well you like driving junkers, why would you want to?
Audi and VW are of course way below average. But ironically, it was my experience that these vehicles had very solid engines and transmissions, as well as very good bodies and paint (Hondas have abysmal paint). It was the niggling other items on VW/Audi products that could drive you up the wall.These days it is the rare engine/transmission that can't go 200K miles and more.