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Re: Clobberin' Time...

Wes Hutchings
SubjectRe: Clobberin' Time...
FromWes Hutchings
Date09/20/2001 08:44 (09/19/2001 23:44)
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FollowupsPaul \"Duggy\" Duggan (22h & 30m) > Wes Hutchings

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
From: "Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan" <jc122739@jcu.edu.au> Organization: University of Queensland Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars.misc Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 15:16:00 +1000 Subject: Re: Clobberin' Time...

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Wes Hutchings wrote:

From: "Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan" <jc122739@jcu.edu.au> I'm sorry. Then we're agreed that the best solution is a non-violent one.

Wes Hutchings
There is no ONE solution. The US is using several non-violent ones.

Violent ones depend on there being an adversary.

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
In a war there are obvious targets.

A war against terrorists is harder.

No shit.

Like finding a needle in a heystack without the help of a super-magnet.

The US is pretty good at that.

And they will only fight back harder.

Only to a point.

Wes Hutchings
To not preserve ones own life in self defense is suicide.

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
"To not preserve one's own life... is suicide."

Pretty obvious statement.

Yes and yet you either don't get it or you plan on following it. Make sure to get TV coverage, I want to see how well it works.

Violence is violence.

Wes Hutchings
No, many degrees.

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
It is still violence. Degrees don't matter.

So your anti-spam position would be in support of violent action. Thanks for clarifying hypocrite.

Wes Hutchings
Popular entertainment is the lowest form of human expression.

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
I'd rather watch the world's worst sitcom then be shot.

And yet that is what you're asking for.

Wes Hutchings
Violence comes in many flavors.

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
All of them violent.

I can't wait to hear you explain your anti-spam position.

Wes Hutchings
Self defense is one of them that again has many flavors to it. If you defend your own life by using violence,

Paul \"Duggy\" Duggan
you must justify it in a court.

Depends, if you're a criminal you can probably get off, assuming they catch you. If they don't catch you, then you get off free and clear.

This is what you are advocating for the terrorists. They got away and you want us to keep letting them get away with it.

Where as the US wants to defend itself and is being open about it and is willing to accept the worlds view of events.

You still want to charge them with murder.

wes

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