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James Trory
SubjectRe: Clobberin' Time...
FromJames Trory
Date09/18/2001 02:52 (09/17/2001 20:52)
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We've secretly replaced the Pacific Ocean with Folgers crystals. Let's see if James W. King notices:

James W. King
James Trory (<A HREF="mailto:j_trory@yahoo.com">j_trory@yahoo.com</A>): "One thing, Mr King. Harbouring known terrorists is not a good thing according to you which, yes, I agree with. But is funding the IRA much better? Because America has, indirectly and in the past, done that."

Specifically *who* in the United States are you referring to when you invoke the name "America"?

James Trory (<A HREF="mailto:j_trory@yahoo.com">j_trory@yahoo.com</A>): "How can the United States be so hypocritical as to condemn countries that hold fugitive terrorists within their borders and yet fund a terrorist organization that has killed, over the last thirty years, probably as many innocent people in the United Kingdom as have perished in the destruction of the WTC? Answer me that."

What department of the U.S. Government are you referring to specificly? Please elaborate and cite some reputable sources.

It is called the Irish Northern Aid Committee, and has been running until this very day for the last 30 years. It is not a government department, rather an organisation that presumably opperates outside of US sanctions.

I quote the Georgia Bulletin, March 12th 1981, in which Mr Frank Sheridan, an information officer at the Irish Embassy in Washington DC, says:

"For the most part, the IRA receives the financial support it needs for arms here in the U.S. The Irish Northern Aid Committee is the front in the U.S. that supplies funds for arms to this violent group. Nor-Aid, as it is called, pretends to help victims of violence; it, in fact, helps men of violence. No later than July 1980, the Prime Minister Mr. Charles Haughey issued a statement requesting that no American give support to Nor-Aid, financial or moral." (http://www.archatl.com/gabull/1981/810312a.htm)

I quote an article about the writings of one Professor Andrew Wilson of Loyola University, Chicago:

"Also beginning in the 1970s, according to Wilson, the use of the United States' transportation system became a great way for Americans to aid the IRA. IRA members became stewards and packed pieces of guns and explosives in air freight containers along with them on their trips to Ireland. Irish Americans also used the Queen Elizabeth II to transport weapons in furniture, most of which was transported from Boston and New York. With the increase in airport security in the mid-1970s, many people were caught and convicted. Wilson claims that in 1977, "88 percent of the IRA's weapons came from America...[and] 70 percent of people killed were done so by American weapons." (http://students.depaul.edu/~kroach/american.html)

The Northern Ireland Glossary:

"In 1977, the U.S. Department of Justice made Noraid register officially as an agent of the Provisional IRA. The group has said its funds are distributed through Sinn Fein in Dublin and the Green Cross in Belfast. In 1982, five Noraid officials were acquitted in New York of gun-running to the IRA. Flannery, one of the five, denied that he had been involved in gun-running to the IRA, but said he approved of it."

Sinn Fein, so you know, have also been accused of supporting the IRA and it's been pretty much proven now. The INAC were certainly treading lightly in 1982. Plus, Flannery (the founder of Nor-Aid) is a known ex-IRA soldier.

Also note that the US Department of Justice *made* Nor-Aid register as agents of the Provisional IRA and yet the US government did not stop Nor-Aid's support of the IRA. The Irish vote made sure of that. Only Bill Cliton did anything to curb the INAC.

James W. King (3h & 56m)