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Re: Clobberin' Time...

James W. King
SubjectRe: Clobberin' Time...
FromJames W. King
Date09/17/2001 04:39 (09/17/2001 04:39)
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James Trory
Cryofax (<A HREF="mailto:Jack_Shappa@hotmail.com

">Jack_Shappa@hotmail.com</A>): "They support these cowards, now they need to pay. Let's pray Bush has at least the balls of his dad (hopefully more). Give 'em a couple days to evacuate the cities of our choice, then waste 'em. Make terrorism very expensive for the nations that support it."

Paul "Duggy" Duggan: "And let's kill the families of murders... show them we won't put up with that sort of thing either."

Cryofax: "So basically you're saying any other country should be allowed to sponsor activity that leads to civilian casualities, but we should never retaliate against them because we might hurt their 'innocent' civilians? At least we'd have the decency to let them evacuate a city before we annihilate it."

Rakelle (<A HREF="mailto:celaeno@shavenwookie.nospam.com

">celaeno@shavenwookie.nospam.com</A>): "Hiroshima. Nagasaki. And you don't know that a government has knowingly sponsored this."

Drew Stile: "Please don't compare Hiroshima to this. That was war, this was not."

James Trory (<A HREF="mailto:j_trory@yahoo.com">j_trory@yahoo.com</A>): "Civilians are civilians. 320,000... 400,000... They're still dead, and countless others suffered severe, deadly affects from radiation poisoning. Don't you dare tell me that because it was war it was okay."

It was not a matter of its being "okay" as it was *pragmatically necessary* to prevent untold more deaths of one's own side's soldiers.

And unfortunately, that's what war is all about: deliberating exacting such a cost in human lives and property destruction of the enemy to the point that he is compelled to finally surrender.

Moreover, civilians are not merely innocent civilians in times of war if/when they're contributing to the war effort by way of working in factories and in industries that produce war materiel, munitions, food and supplies necessary for the sustenance and maintenance of the war machine. Moreover, if civilians actually support the aims of their government and don't oppose it, then they are acting in accord with their government's war aims just the same.

Such a wayward country's leaders willfully accept the consequences of fomenting war, including the risk, if not probability, that they're also making their populace's subject to collateral death and damages incurred both in the fog of war and as the result of deliberate targeting of strategic targets (around which civilians might live).

-- James King